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Ys: The Oath in Felghana Gets a Limited Edition

TwinBahamutTwinBahamut Staff HealerRPGamer Staff
edited September 2010 in Latest Updates
Are you ready to make an oath of loyalty to XSEED Games and the Ys series? Glorious music and art await for those who are willing.

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  • LordKaiserLordKaiser Gaming Freedom Full Members
    edited September 2010
    I think this is great! It's one of the best Ys games that we never got and finally we can have it. The soundtrack alone is enough to buy this collector edition.
    Never buy a game published by D3 Publisher that is not WKCII. They cheated on their fans by releasing a game that they didn't support not even for a year and they released a rushed translation.
  • flamethrowerflamethrower Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    This is the sort of thing we want to avoid on the forums. It's basically the same as saying the game sucks, only reverse polarity.
    Why is it great?
    Do you like artbooks? This art specifically?
    Do you like soundtracks? This soundtrack specifically? <-This is why I'm getting this. Best soundtrack EVAR.
    Do you like collector editions in general?
  • LordKaiserLordKaiser Gaming Freedom Full Members
    edited September 2010
    It's not more than great for me because I don't have a PSP...
    Never buy a game published by D3 Publisher that is not WKCII. They cheated on their fans by releasing a game that they didn't support not even for a year and they released a rushed translation.
  • solosolo Dilettante Gamer Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Now, what I understood about the Ys 7 limited edition was that the art book contained art from previous games in the Ys series, eliminating the need for collector's editions of the other Ys games coming from XSEED. I guess that's not the case now.
  • TiaelTiael Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Nah, not eliminating the need for collector's edition of the other titles, but an artbook in said collector's editions because the one with Ys Seven already had art for the other 2 titles.
    Soundtrack and other goodies are still happening.

    Elena's skirt is partially on the side of the LE box of Ys Seven, so I assume when lining all 3 of the LE Ys titles up it'll form a picture.

    Anyways, waiting for this, beat Ys Seven but now doing nightmare on it, but really can't wait for The Oath in Felghana, and a premium edition is icing on the cake, and $39.99 is great.
    Granted the $49.99 for Ys Seven LE was more than worth it with those contents, and I can show my Ys fandom at work with this desktop calendar.
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  • MaddocMaddoc Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Not as swanky as the Ys 7 bundle, sadly.

    Considering buying it just for the musical selection, nonetheless.
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  • TiaelTiael Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Figured it wouldn't be as swanky since the map and artbook covered other games and not just Seven, but it is $10 cheaper.
    The desktop calendar and soundtrack are fine by me, and makes me wonder what we'll see in the LE of Ys I & II Chronicles, assuming there is one.
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  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    This is fantastic news! :D
  • MinneyarMinneyar Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Oath in Felghana has basically the best soundtrack ever. It's worth it.

    I've already got the Japanese LE with the stack of soundtracks it came with, but I'll buy this anyway just because you XSeed guys are cool.
  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    Oath in Felghana is just fantastic all around.
  • WyrdwadWyrdwad Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    As an aside, the Musical Selections CD in this bundle will contain an Oath in Felghana PSP track that's never before been released on CD! So yeah... all you collectors out there, take note! (:

    -Tom
  • chaoticprimechaoticprime Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    This needs to be at my house. I shall make it so, soon enough.
  • UnderdogUnderdog Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    This is a great Ys game, and I truly love it, I had it on TurboGrafx CD with full cutscenes. However, the point I am trying to make is Ys 3 exists in the states, "technically" so does YS 4. GIVE US YS 5 DAMN you!
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  • WyrdwadWyrdwad Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Felghana is very different from Ys III. It may be a remake... but make no mistake, it's not the same game at all.

    Don't want to sound like a salesman, so I won't say any more than that... I just wanted to make sure people understood that as remakes go, this is probably the single most thorough, renewing remake of all time.

    I agree, however: an Ys V remake would be outstanding. Ys V needs one, pretty badly!

    -Tom
  • LordKaiserLordKaiser Gaming Freedom Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Yeah we know Felghana is to Ys III what Metroid:Zero Mission is to the first Metroid game.
    Never buy a game published by D3 Publisher that is not WKCII. They cheated on their fans by releasing a game that they didn't support not even for a year and they released a rushed translation.
  • WyrdwadWyrdwad Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    LordKaiser said:
    Yeah we know Felghana is to Ys III what Metroid:Zero Mission is to the first Metroid game.

    Even more than that, I'd say. Metroid: Zero Mission still had the same basic gameplay of Metroid, it was just smoothed out. Felghana, though, plays COMPLETELY differently. It would be like if Metroid 1 were remade in 3D using the Metroid Prime engine... but even better, since I don't like Metroid Prime. (:

    -Tom
  • reionprementereionpremente Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    LordKaiser said:
    Yeah we know Felghana is to Ys III what Metroid:Zero Mission is to the first Metroid game.

    So, let me try to understand this... Ys III as it was in 1990 is no longer a part of this game? Everything I've seen of it is more like 7 in almost every way. I miss the ORIGINAL Ys III: Wanderers of Ys. I had no idea they were going to re-engineer it completely. Oath of Felghana I thought was the 4th game in the series, and not the third. What are they doing here exactly? From a distant viewpoint, it looks like they're re-writing the entire series to fit 7's new style and not remaking the original games at all. Can someone please tell me what exactly is going on here? Did Sammy do something to the series that screwed up the chronology or something? And before anyone starts, yes, I do know that Falcom is the real programmer of the series. IOW, did they release them like FFIII and 6 got interchanged, or something like that? I don't recall Oath of Felghana being the third game in the series at any time. ~_~ I'm so lost.
  • MinneyarMinneyar Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    It's simpler than that; Ys: The Oath in Felghana is a complete remake of Ys III: Wanderers from Ys. The basic story and structure of the plot is the same, but everything else (the combat engine, music, dungeons, script, etc.) has been vastly improved and fleshed out. While I enjoyed Ys III, most fans consider it to be the weakest game in the series, and Felghana transforms it into the best. It's hard to come up with an appropriate analogy; I can't think of any other games that have had as complete a remake as Oath in Felghana. Maybe Wild Arms: Alter Code F is similar in scope? (although OiF pulls it off much better than ACF did)

    For what it's worth, OiF is more similar in style to Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim or Ys Origin than Ys VII, although there are still a few significant differences from those.
  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    "Remake" almost seems like a bad description. Re-imagining maybe?
  • flamethrowerflamethrower Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    No, it's a remake alright.
    A lot of stuff is the same, a lot of stuff is different. That's a remake.
    When there's not much different it's an updated re-release.
    There can be a hazy line between the two sometimes, but Ys Felghana falls squarely into the remake bucket - objectively so.
  • MinneyarMinneyar Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    I think the term "remake" is a bit fuzzy for a lot of people because of all of Square-Enix's "remakes" of the early Final Fantasy games, which are generally exactly the same with slightly more polished graphics and music. It's hard to call them ports because they're not exactly the same, but on the other hand, calling them remakes is being rather generous...
  • WyrdwadWyrdwad Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Minneyar pretty much described it to a T. Oath in Felghana will NOT disappoint fans of Ys III. Everything that was good about Ys III is still there -- it's just that everything that sucked about it is pretty much gone.

    Honestly, I consider Felghana to be damn near a perfect game. It's like the Super Metroid of this console generation -- it may not be long, but you'll be hard pressed to find a single bad thing to say about it. It's one of the few games I would legitimately rank as worthy of a 10/10 or 5/5. I was worried when the PSP version was announced -- worried that Falcom was going to change too much by adding in the Double Boost feature, or that its transition to PSP would fall prey to the load times found in the PSP iteration of Ys VI -- but my fears were for naught. The PSP version is totally amazing.

    -Tom
  • MonCapitan2002MonCapitan2002 Avatar Captured Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Bastards! Now I have to somehow restrain myself from ponying up the cash to get this game. Curse you XSeed for tempting me (I own the PC version of the game)! I will concede that buying the game would be interesting since I would like to see how the official translation would compare to the translation patch that was written by someone named Deuce, I believe.
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  • flamethrowerflamethrower Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    I think XSEED bought Deuce's translation and is using a modified version of it for the game.
  • WyrdwadWyrdwad Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Yep, I can confirm that. We used Deuce's translation as a base, but ran a thorough editing pass over it. I don't know if people here know the story, but the Felghana PC patch was never actually finished -- due to some internet drama, it was left in a beta state, and Deuce's translation remained unedited all this time. As a result, despite being an excellent translation overall, it WAS a bit rough around the edges, and needed a little TLC from us. And TLC is what it got! It now does justice both to the source material, and to all of Deuce's hard work. So for all those who felt Ys Seven's localization was a bit bland (I know a few people here felt that that was the case), let it be known that Oath in Felghana is going to blow you away. ;)

    -Tom
  • LordKaiserLordKaiser Gaming Freedom Full Members
    edited September 2010
    reionpremente said:
    So, let me try to understand this... Y's III as it was in 1990 is no longer a part of this game? Everything I've seen of it is more like 7 in almost every way. I miss the ORIGINAL Y's III: Wanderers of Y's. I had no idea they were going to re-engineer it completely. Oath of Felghana I thought was the 4th game in the series, and not the third. What are they doing here exactly? From a distant viewpoint, it looks like they're re-writing the entire series to fit 7's new style and not remaking the original games at all. Can someone please tell me what exactly is going on here? Did Sammy do something to the series that screwed up the chronology or something? And before anyone starts, yes, I do know that Falcom is the real programmer of the series. IOW, did they release them like FFIII and 6 got interchanged, or something like that? I don't recall Oath of Felghana being the third game in the series at any time. ~_~ I'm so lost.

    It also add plot elements not present on Ys III and change the old plot a little. Another comparison even if not a game would be Advent Children and Advent Children: Complete. It adds and change some things. That why Ys III is not longer canon and Oath in Felghana is.
    Never buy a game published by D3 Publisher that is not WKCII. They cheated on their fans by releasing a game that they didn't support not even for a year and they released a rushed translation.
  • reionprementereionpremente Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Ah... I loved Ys III so I can't wait to see what they do with it.
  • LordKaiserLordKaiser Gaming Freedom Full Members
    edited September 2010
    If you loved Ys III then prepare yourself to be amazed as it will become your favorite game.
    Never buy a game published by D3 Publisher that is not WKCII. They cheated on their fans by releasing a game that they didn't support not even for a year and they released a rushed translation.
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