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Planescape: Torment Joins Baldur's Gate on Good Old Games

QuinQuin ne cede malisRPGamer Staff
edited October 2010 in Latest Updates
Bad: GoG closes. Good: GoG to allow downloading of purchased games. Bad: Whole affair a marketing stunt. Good: Bioware and Black Isles games in catalogue. Oh GoG, why do you torment us so?

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  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited September 2010
    If you have a wide-screen/relatively large monitor it might be an idea to download the unofficial widescreen/User Interface mods so you're not stretching a 640x480 game across 26" or whatever.

    Anyway, this marks two of the seven planned Hasbo titles GOG say they're going to release. I'm guessing three of the other five will be Baldur's Gate II and Icewindale I/II, and another one may be The Temple of Elemental Evil, but what about the last one? Gold Box collection? Dark sun: Shattered Lands? Ruins of Myth Drannor, lol?
  • shoptrollshoptroll Have towel will travel Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands I thought went freeware a while back.

    My money is on Neverwinter.
    So long & thanks for all the fish!
  • reionprementereionpremente Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    I'd LOVE to play this! I'd never got a chance to and I'm really kicking myself for it. How many years before Neverwinter Nights was this? I just remember it was great like Icewind Dale was (Both of which I never got to play. ~_~). IS Icewind Dale I and II available anymore? From what I remember, Ruins of Myth Drannor was TERRIBLE. It needed a patch just to work properly if memory serves.
  • reionprementereionpremente Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Hasbro? I thought Wizards of the Coast owned them now since Interplay is no longer making games. I'd also love to play the full version of BG II... I'd love it if someone would go back and make HD remakes of them. ^_^ I'm sort of confused by this post. Does this mean that ALL of the Black Isle Studios games are now available for download? This is really cool. I may invest in some CLASSIC PC games! It looks like they have a LOT of good stuff! ~_^ Beyond Good and Evil! That's sweet!
  • reionprementereionpremente Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    I feel like I've been asleep for years... I've never even heard of this place before... I'm so ashamed. ~_~ So do ALL of these games work under 7?
  • MinneyarMinneyar Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    They don't have all of the classic BioWare / Black Isle games, but they've got a fair number of them and will be adding more soon.

    By the way, Planescape: Torment is basically the best RPG ever (at least, in terms of story and writing). The gameplay's a little dated by modern standards, but it's still one of my favorite games.

    Also, I recommend that anybody who gets Baldur's Gate or Torment (or any of the other games that used the same engine) get this mod, which will allow you to play in higher screen resolutions: http://www.gibberlings3.net/widescreen/

    There's also a fan-made patch that fixes a number of issues that are still present in the final official version of the game: http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/Torment/Platter/index.php
  • NimNim _ Full Members
    edited September 2010
    This is why I never really got angry. Grat classic games without DRM can't get any better.
  • PimpaliciousPimpalicious Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    reionpremente said:
    I feel like I've been asleep for years... I've never even heard of this place before... I'm so ashamed. ~_~ So do ALL of these games work under 7?
    I've only known about GOG for a few months myself, wish I'd known of them earlier. Most games aren't officially supported with Windows 7 but all my games(I have 11) from them work just fine. There is one game(Jagged Alliance 2) I have to run as administrator if I want to save my games but that's it.

    I purchased Baldur's Gate last weekend and Planescape Torment this morning.
  • Severin MiraSeverin Mira News Director/Reviewer RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    Never played Baldur's Gate and all this stuff has helped pique my interest so purchased a copy of it today. Went for a physical copy though as the 4-in-1 boxset of 1+2 and expansions was only £10, which is more value for money than GOG is currently doing (plus it doesn't have 2 yet). And I like physical stuffs.
    "My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre and that I am therefore excused from saving universes."
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  • shoptrollshoptroll Have towel will travel Full Members
    edited September 2010
    reionpremente said:
    I feel like I've been asleep for years... I've never even heard of this place before... I'm so ashamed. ~_~ So do ALL of these games work under 7?

    It's been in beta for two years and didn't get a ton of press aside from the initial roll-out and some of their holiday sales. As Pimp pointed out, not all games are Win 7 certified... yet. I do believe they're working on it, but anything that works on Vista 32/64-bit should work on 7.
    So long & thanks for all the fish!
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    Yes, they've stated that they're currently going through the catalogue and making sure that games work in Win 7 before they certify them.
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • watcherwatcher Veteran RPGamer Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Quin said:
    Bad: GoG closes. Good: GoG to allow downloading of purchased games. Bad: Whole affair a marketing stunt. Good: Bioware and Black Isles games in catalogue. Oh GoG, why do you torment us so?

    [NEWS]

    All that for one pun, eh?
  • Fowl SorcerousFowl Sorcerous Dread News Editor RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    Quin said:
    Bad: GoG closes. Good: GoG to allow downloading of purchased games. Bad: Whole affair a marketing stunt. Good: Bioware and Black Isles games in catalogue. Oh GoG, why do you torment us so?

    [NEWS]

    Good: It comes with free frogurt. Bad: the frogurt is also cursed.
  • Fowl SorcerousFowl Sorcerous Dread News Editor RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    reionpremente said:
    Hasbro? I thought Wizards of the Coast owned them now since Interplay is no longer making games.
    and Hasbro owns WOTC. And George Lucas is a major investor in Hasbro, and George Lucas is owned by an evil franchise-ruining entity disguising itself as his neck fat pouch thing.
  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Just remembered something about this game (and other Infinity Engine games): some NVidia cards (particularly Series 8) don't play well with the DirectDraw calls this game uses, which can result in graphical corruption. If you're having issues like seeing a solid, "blocky" fog of war (ie the black mist that covers sections of the map until you explore them) you may want to try downloading and running this fix.
  • KiroLMKiroLM New Member Full Members
    edited September 2010
    In my experience, the compatibility mode is more than wishful thinking in Windows 7 as well. I haven't had much trouble running games, and I play anything from Civilization V to Jazz Jackrabbit.

    Planescape: Torment is also one of my favorite, if not my favorite, RPG. The writing is brilliant, the characters are top notch, and the story is not shabby. Combat is your basic turn based This-Is-A-CRPG combat. Graphics are, well. What you would expect from 11 year old graphics.

    It's a shame it, alongside Icewind Dale, didn't sell well at -all-. We might've seen Fallout 3 / Baldur's Gate 3 coming out from Black Isle if at least Planescape had sold as well as it reviewed. Ending on Icewind Dale II was hardly a high note, and that game was outdated by the time it came out.

    Nevertheless, Black Isle will always bring up warm fuzzy feelings of flying smarmy skulls and blowing up thieving children with live grenades.
  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited September 2010
    Based on what's been revealed about BGIII/F3/Torn's development I don't think anything could have saved those games from Interplay's incompetence.
  • 7thCircle7thCircle RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    ThroneofDravaris said:
    Based on what's been revealed about BGIII/F3/Torn's development I don't think anything could have saved those games from Interplay's incompetence.

    Completely true. Really heart-breaking reading about how Interplay mismanaged some of the best video game talent in the industry. You need Stonekeep 2 in that list as well, since that seems to have been the biggest money and time sink.

    @Kiro -- Planescape: Torment was designed and developed as more of a side project while the Real People worked on the next Real Game. This is how Interplay let something so outstanding and unique out the door. Planescape didn't sell horribly -- it just didn't sell on the level of Interplay's other major releases, and it didn't sell well relative to the most successful PC games of that time. I'm pretty sure it sold over 500,000 copies in the first year, and for what was a lower budget side project, that isn't bad at all. Torn was the planned spiritual successor to Torment, so it made enough of a profit to warrant a new game in the "series."
    The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions.
  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2010
    reionpremente said:
    Hasbro? I thought Wizards of the Coast owned them now since Interplay is no longer making games.

    Other way around, Hasbro owns Wizards of the Coast.
  • shoptrollshoptroll Have towel will travel Full Members
    edited September 2010
    ThroneofDravaris said:
    Just remembered something about this game (and other Infinity Engine games): some NVidia cards (particularly Series 8) don't play well with the DirectDraw calls this game uses, which can result in graphical corruption. If you're having issues like seeing a solid, "blocky" fog of war (ie the black mist that covers sections of the map until you explore them) you may want to try downloading and running this fix.

    Is that something this will fix as well?
    So long & thanks for all the fish!
  • reionprementereionpremente Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Minneyar said:
    They don't have all of the classic BioWare / Black Isle games, but they've got a fair number of them and will be adding more soon.

    By the way, Planescape: Torment is basically the best RPG ever (at least, in terms of story and writing). The gameplay's a little dated by modern standards, but it's still one of my favorite games.

    Also, I recommend that anybody who gets Baldur's Gate or Torment (or any of the other games that used the same engine) get this mod, which will allow you to play in higher screen resolutions: http://www.gibberlings3.net/widescreen/

    There's also a fan-made patch that fixes a number of issues that are still present in the final official version of the game: http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/Torment/Platter/index.php

    How is it that they can have Baldur's Gate 1 and expansion but not 2? I want 2 dang it. Although I never DID get that far in the first game.
  • reionprementereionpremente Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    I wonder... is there a fix for FFVII to run on Win 7? That requires DirectShow... and I'd LOVE to be able to play Ultima on my PC... Any ideas? Is there something to fix Descent Freespace 1?
  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited October 2010
    reionpremente said:
    How is it that they can have Baldur's Gate 1 and expansion but not 2? I want 2 dang it. Although I never DID get that far in the first game.

    They're probably waiting on 2. You know what they say, you don't start the show with a show-stopper.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "What the f--- is a Shakespeare?"
    -Rico Valasquez, showing off why no one likes him.
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited October 2010
    reionpremente said:
    I wonder... is there a fix for FFVII to run on Win 7? That requires DirectShow... and I'd LOVE to be able to play Ultima on my PC... Any ideas? Is there something to fix Descent Freespace 1?

    Unfortunately, you're unlikely to see any Ultima games on GoG.com (or Steam, or whatever) anytime soon. EA currently owns the series and has pretty much just been sitting on it. The last time an Ultima compliation was released, to my knowledge, was 1998. A dedicated web search might net you some instructions for whatever DOSBOX wizardry you have to pull off to get those things running, but man. I remember trying to get them running in DOS back in the day, and it always required major tweaks to autoexec.bat and config.sys... in fact, I completely fried my poor 486's system trying to adjust expanded memory in order to make Ultima: Savage Worlds work. Had to restore from backup. :) So I imagine that getting the games to work today is a major pain in the rear.
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • BalanceBalance Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Gonna grab torment sometime when I got nothing to play, sounds good to me ^^
  • ZerkerZerker Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    For the Ultima thing, it's not too hard to get them working in DosBox; it's getting the games at all at this point that is hard. To get them working, first I suggest getting the DosBox Game Launcher. This makes it easier to set up per-game configuration settings, which are needed for pretty much every Ultima game (except 8). If you are a Mac user, Boxer may be more to your taste (and I believe it auto-detects Ultima games to configure settings).

    Anyways, here are my suggested settings per game. Most of it is just the machine speed, but Ultima 7 also needs you to disable EMS memory:
    1 = 1500 Cycles
    2, 3 = 300 Cycles
    4, 5 = 1500 Cycles
    6, Savage Empire, Martian Dreams = 2000 Cycles
    7, Black Gate = 15000 Cycles, No EMS memory
    7 Part 2, Serpent's Isle = Max Cycles, No EMS memory (SI does speed compensation)
    8 = Auto/Max cycles
    Underworld 1 = 12500 Cycles
    Underworld 2 = 20000 Cycles
  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited October 2010
    And now, GOG has Icewind Dale. Baldur's Gate 2 can't be that far off.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "What the f--- is a Shakespeare?"
    -Rico Valasquez, showing off why no one likes him.
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