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Atlus Sins Innocently on the PSP

OcelotOcelot is not declawedRPGamer Staff
edited October 2010 in Latest Updates
Atlus continues introducing the early Persona games to a new generation with this PSP remake of Persona 2: Innocent Sin. Hopefully the ESRB will be kinder to the game this time around, and we'll see it in English.
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  • NyxNyx Staff Girly Girl RPGamer Staff
    edited October 2010
    All I can say is...ME WANTIE.

    *makes grabby hands*
  • Fowl SorcerousFowl Sorcerous Dread News Editor RPGamer Staff
    edited October 2010
    I dunno, the esrb still seems to have the same opinions of suicide and Hitler as they did back then...
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited October 2010
    Well, they passed Persona 3...
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  • freykinfreykin Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Here's to hoping it makes it over here. I'd love to play this.
  • SwaytekkSwaytekk New Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    The game has already been translated by way of CFW by a (small and independent) translating studio. I don't see how it should be a problem in this day in age, considering we have game sout there now that are bluntly titled like W.T.F or Grand Theft Auto: Ballad of Gay Tony. ESBR has become very flexible these last few years.
  • shoptrollshoptroll Have towel will travel Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Fowl Sorcerous said:
    I dunno, the esrb still seems to have the same opinions of suicide and Hitler as they did back then...
    Did Atlus/Sony even attempt to localize the game back then? My understanding is they didn't bother with it (presumably because of whatever the political/cultural landscape was at the time... Columbine was roughly around that time) so the ESRB never would've touched it. Since then we've definitely had plenty of games dealing with Nazis (two Wolfenstein Games and World at War's nazi zombies mode), and games have tackled suicide in a couple of games. The industry is maturing with the gamers. I think they can get it through unedited.
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  • FudorahZubatFudorahZubat Monster Lover Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Heee, saw this news on 4chan last night. I'm also in the English-release-is-likely camp. I seriously and honestly doubt that Innocent Sin has anything worse than what can be found in the new GTA games, Dead Rising, etc.
  • Mickeymac92Mickeymac92 Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Ocelot said:
    Well, they passed Persona 3...

    If they can pass a game where shooting yourself in the head is a gameplay mechanic, I don't see why they'd have a problem with Innocent Sin.
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  • He Who LurksHe Who Lurks AWESOME! Full Members
    edited October 2010
    It's only in Germany (and sometimes the rest of Europe if they don't want to make 2 Pal versions) that you can't have stuff with Hitler, Nazis, etc.
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  • TiaelTiael Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Also, Operation Darkness was published by Atlus in NA and it had Hitler.
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  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited October 2010
    He Who Lurks said:
    It's only in Germany (and sometimes the rest of Europe if they don't want to make 2 Pal versions) that you can't have stuff with Hitler, Nazis, etc.

    Well, since the German version of a game would have to be in German for it to succeed there (from what I understand, they're really big on their own language), I imagine different versions are common for releases that would be controversial, provided they aren't refused German classification outright (Gears of War and Dead Rising come to mind). However, the rest of the world's gamers have already killed more Nazis than all the allies during the war, so I don't see that being an issue.

    And honestly, I thought IS didn't come out here because EP wasn't as successful as it could have been.
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  • shoptrollshoptroll Have towel will travel Full Members
    edited October 2010
    MasterChief said:
    And honestly, I thought IS didn't come out here because EP wasn't as successful as it could have been.

    Wasn't EP released second in Japan?
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  • colormonstercolormonster Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    More Persona goodies makes me happy.
  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited October 2010
    shoptroll said:
    Wasn't EP released second in Japan?

    I mean western EP. I remember back then everyone complaining that IS was the one people wanted.
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  • lolwhoopslolwhoops Member HalifaxRPGamer Staff
    edited October 2010
    well i remember back in the day things weren't so easy to sell when they were controversial. Like, I remember the first time I ever seen the word Holy in an rpg lol. From what I've heard of the game story wise, it might not have been worthwhile to try and pitch it to the west. Even if it didn't do well in its day, I would say Atlus has built up a following over the years and it would likely sell well enough were they to release it now. Which puts my hopes high for the game.
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  • PawsPaws Purr RPGamer Staff
    edited October 2010
    Tiael said:
    Also, Operation Darkness was published by Atlus in NA and it had Hitler.

    A WEREWOLF Hitler. Aw yeah.
  • CipherinthesnoWCipherinthesnoW Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    Awww, this would make my day if it came out here in the US!
  • RebochanRebochan Who needs Rinoa anyway? Full Members
    edited October 2010
    From what I recall, the obstacle at the time was actually Sony refusing to let Atlus release it. They finally gave up and released Eternal Punishment instead, but still tried to fight for IS in the background. And it wasn't just Hitler - there was also the issue of being able to engage in a gay relationship.

    Things have changed quite a bit at SCEA, so I imagine that's not an issue. Besides, Rockstar already got away with the latter in Bully.
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  • SiliconNooBSiliconNooB Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    And honestly, I thought IS didn't come out here because EP wasn't as successful as it could have been.
    MasterChief said:
    I mean western EP. I remember back then everyone complaining that IS was the one people wanted.
    That doesn't make any sense MC, Innocent Sin is the fist half of a single story split over the two games, what they did was akin to releasing Mass Effect 2 ahead of Mass Effect 1. All things being equal, Innocent Sin should have been released before Eternal Punishment, just as DDS1 was released before DDS2. If Eternal Punishment didn't do so well then that might have put the final nail in the coffin of a western release for Innocent Sin, but Atlus must have had significant content concerns for them to green-light the localisation of the second half of the story, ahead of the first.
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  • He Who LurksHe Who Lurks AWESOME! Full Members
    edited October 2010
    MasterChief said:
    Well, since the German version of a game would have to be in German for it to succeed there (from what I understand, they're really big on their own language), I imagine different versions are common for releases that would be controversial, provided they aren't refused German classification outright (Gears of War and Dead Rising come to mind). However, the rest of the world's gamers have already killed more Nazis than all the allies during the war, so I don't see that being an issue.

    Actually a lot of Pal releases have multi language support, so they wouldn't automatically be doing a separate one just for language issues. But the main point was, having Hitler stuff wouldn't bug the ESRB, just the German censors.
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  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited October 2010
    Rebochan said:
    From what I recall, the obstacle at the time was actually Sony refusing to let Atlus release it. They finally gave up and released Eternal Punishment instead, but still tried to fight for IS in the background. And it wasn't just Hitler - there was also the issue of being able to engage in a gay relationship.

    Things have changed quite a bit at SCEA, so I imagine that's not an issue. Besides, Rockstar already got away with the latter in Bully.
    Not to mention the Fable games... and anything BioWare's done recently, but really, it's Fable that makes no bones about the digital rumpy-pumpy.
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  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited October 2010
    He Who Lurks said:
    Actually a lot of Pal releases have multi language support, so they wouldn't automatically be doing a separate one just for language issues. But the main point was, having Hitler stuff wouldn't bug the ESRB, just the German censors.

    Pretty much, yeah.

    Though man, Europe must be such a pain in the rear market, dealing with the menagerie of different laws and such.
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  • SiliconNooBSiliconNooB Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    It's always a pain waiting for games to get a PAL release. Now that HD gaming has done away with the relevance of television standards, Austalia, the UK and New Zealand really should be getting the North American versions of games, I mean we don't need for them to be translated into a patchwork of languages ... this is where a bit of flexibility and industry integration would be nice.
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  • WhoompWhoomp Smorgasbord Full Members
    edited October 2010
    SiliconNooB said:
    It's always a pain waiting for games to get a PAL release. Now that HD gaming has done away with the relevance of television standards, Austalia, the UK and New Zealand really should be getting the North American versions of games, I mean we don't need for them to be translated into a patchwork of languages ... this is where a bit of flexibility and industry integration would be nice.

    Well, at least Sony have been lenient on the region protection so us who speak English outside of the US can always import games but I totally agree. I see no reason why there should be different versions of a game even though the language and content to 99.9% are exactly the same. Those who can't handle the language should be the ones who gets "punished" by later releases that the localization is a result of. There is no benefit for me that a game gets released many months after the US release and all I get out of it is 4 pages of quickstart at the end of the manual and/or some text on the back of the box in Swedish (if I am lucky).
  • SiliconNooBSiliconNooB Member Full Members
    edited October 2010
    The irony is when English language games launch in Asia ahead of England, Australia etc.
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