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RPG Backtrack: Episode 45- Ultimate Power

JuMeSynJuMeSyn Code: KirinAdministrators
edited June 2011 in Latest Updates
The world of Britannia holds many surprises, such as TIE fighters and some sympathetic gargoyles. Learn about the land of Lord British and the Avatar with a listen to this episode.
It's Ultima time.
It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.

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  • RetrovertigoRetrovertigo Member Full Members
    edited May 2011
    iTunes link is broken again I'm afraid :(
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    Noooo, we didn't use any ampersands!
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • JuMeSynJuMeSyn Code: Kirin Administrators
    edited May 2011
    Y'know, one of the fun things about iTunes is that it doesn't immediately alter the RSS feed after I've updated, so I have to wait awhile to see if the change is effective. Should be fixed now, though.
    It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.
  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited May 2011
    Cool, been waiting for this one. I was surprised to hear that everyone seemed to prefer the earlier games to the fan favourite, VII. I guess it wasn't as original as the earlier games, being a more standard tale of good vs evil compared to the more interesting setups in IV-VI. It also has one of the worst combat systems ever. Still, I thought the writing was a step up from VI, and the vastly improved graphics and music (VI has three BGMs total which looped over and over again in seemingly random order) made a huge difference. I didn't play any of them when they were released though (I didn't own a PC until 1999), so that probably makes a difference.

    Incidentally, the fact that these games require DOSBox to run nowdays shouldn't really turn anyone off. It's not like DOSBox is some horribly complicated piece of software that only programmers can wraps their heads around; for 99% of games you can just drag the game executable on top of the DOSBox icon and it will start automatically. Ultima VII has a few issues with DOSBox, but then that's what Exult is for.
  • ShayminShaymin The Gratitude Pokemon Full Members
    edited May 2011
    I only recall the Ultima series from an old series of NES hint books that did the Ultima IV and V ports. I seem to recall one of them (V?) having a giant glowing skull that if you took it, you were guaranteed to never become the Avatar.

    On that day, I learned the concept of Schmuck Bait.
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  • Strawberry EggsStrawberry Eggs The Bemused Administrators
    edited May 2011
    The Spoony One's retrospective of the series is my only exposure to the Ultima series. They do seem to be rather interesting games.
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  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    ThroneofDravaris said:
    Incidentally, the fact that these games require DOSBox to run nowdays shouldn't really turn anyone off. It's not like DOSBox is some horribly complicated piece of software that only programmers can wraps their heads around; for 99% of games you can just drag the game executable on top of the DOSBox icon and it will start automatically. Ultima VII has a few issues with DOSBox, but then that's what Exult is for.
    Normally I'm fine using DOSBox, but you don't understand how awful these games were to get running in their original versions. I'm really surprised that they don't give DOSBox much trouble.
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • Shadow4699Shadow4699 Over 500 PKMN? Firetruck! Full Members
    edited May 2011
    Ocelot. I forgot to mention on the last post I made on the last podcast but, I think you are the 2nd best podcast member on the podcast. I'm sorry but Nyx is always going to be my No.1 But you're a VERY close 2nd. I wuv you long time Nyx and Ocelot! Keep up the podcasting!
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  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    Aww, thanks Shadow! And I'm okay being numba 2 to Ms. Nyx. ;)
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • NyxNyx Staff Girly Girl RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    Awww, Ocelot is my numba 1! Oh and maybe she's tied with that Fowl guy. ;)

    But awww, thanks Shadow! I'm really flattered!
  • OmbresOmbres Games horder Full Members
    edited May 2011
    For my part I only played Ultima 3 and 4, on the Nes and the Sega master system, I did finished them both.
    Ok I did use some trick for the 3rd one, cause it’s was a hard one, like create a lot of character and pool all the money, or staying in lvl 1 and collect all the xp we need for like be lvl 20 or 30, cause it was easy to defeat monster at lvl 1 since new monsters appear depending of your lvl, and at lvl one you have 2 kind of monster that you can defeat with a spell that cost nothing. Even climb a team to lvl 5 to get boat to appear, get one then delete that team and can go on sea with no monster on it with my lvl 1 team!

    For Ultima 4, well the Nes one was a very easy mode, you did not have to find the mantra for each shrine, you did not even need to solve the puzzle with all the letter you receive in the each virtue shrine, I think it was easier too with the spell, you did not have to write down all spell to cast them cause you you’ll have like recipe ready to use. The one on Sega master was a lot harder but more fun too!
    You were collecting all characters of all the virtues too! Like if you start as a bard, Iolo was not in your game.

    Lot of great memory from both of these games!! Would be fun to play the others!
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  • KyoskeKyoske Member Full Members
    edited May 2011
    Well this was kind of hit and miss for you guys, but it was understandable why. Still I would have appreciated maybe just summing up the ones no one played, and relying a little less on Wikipedia. That said, the content about the games you guys played was great. The only Ultima I remember was the one for NES. I mainly remember that you could attack anyone. Since I was about 7 when I played, i tried attacking a towns person and was killed by guards. I don't think I ever made it out of the town before we had to return it from the place we rented it at.

    I really liked knowing that the game series was responsible for some things we see in almost every RPG these days. Separate battle screens, shifting perspective on maps, RPG's fascination with space travel. I look forward to hearing about Rune factory. It is not a game I've ever played, but I found the Harvest Moon backtrack interesting (though it ran a little long).

    Keep up the great work!
  • NyxNyx Staff Girly Girl RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    Kyoske said:
    Well this was kind of hit and miss for you guys, but it was understandable why. Still I would have appreciated maybe just summing up the ones no one played, and relying a little less on Wikipedia. That said, the content about the games you guys played was great. The only Ultima I remember was the one for NES. I mainly remember that you could attack anyone. Since I was about 7 when I played, i tried attacking a towns person and was killed by guards. I don't think I ever made it out of the town before we had to return it from the place we rented it at.

    I really liked knowing that the game series was responsible for some things we see in almost every RPG these days. Separate battle screens, shifting perspective on maps, RPG's fascination with space travel. I look forward to hearing about Rune factory. It is not a game I've ever played, but I found the Harvest Moon backtrack interesting (though it ran a little long).

    Keep up the great work!

    Oh god, The Harvest Moon backtrack! May we never have one that long again (even though everyone on that track was able to contribute to each of those games). For those curious, we'll be having our special guest from Scotland back to discuss Rune Factory as well. :)
  • ShayminShaymin The Gratitude Pokemon Full Members
    edited May 2011
    The Harvest Moon show is about on the high end of what makes an enjoyable podcast (imo). Now, the Super Robot Wars show...
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  • NyxNyx Staff Girly Girl RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    Shaymin said:
    The Harvest Moon show is about on the high end of what makes an enjoyable podcast (imo). Now, the Super Robot Wars show...

    Don't remind me of SRT. I date a giant robot nerd, and I had to be one that cast with all my cute little giant robot nerds. Sometimes, it's hard to love giant robots when you only know so many. :(
  • JuMeSynJuMeSyn Code: Kirin Administrators
    edited May 2011
    Well, Shaymin, you can blame me for the Super Robot Taisen show if you must. Had my throat not become severely parched, we could have gone even longer, as Quin and I had plenty of other things to say in the import corner. Try one for the combat sometime, and see if it surprises you.
    On the ostensible subject of this episode, tempting as it was to include Ultima Online (since Richard Garriott played a large role in its execution), the main series was enough. Online would have led to all the other side games, and this is a pretty big series even without them.
    It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.
  • QuinQuin ne cede malis RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    Shaymin said:
    The Harvest Moon show is about on the high end of what makes an enjoyable podcast (imo). Now, the Super Robot Wars show...

    I'd like to give an official "My bad" for that one.
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  • EmeraldSuzakuEmeraldSuzaku Member Full Members
    edited May 2011
    Which one was the SRW one? I think I missed it.
  • JuMeSynJuMeSyn Code: Kirin Administrators
    edited May 2011
    It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.
  • EmeraldSuzakuEmeraldSuzaku Member Full Members
    edited May 2011
    There's an archive? Good to know!

    Thanks.
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2011
    Kyoske said:
    Well this was kind of hit and miss for you guys, but it was understandable why. Still I would have appreciated maybe just summing up the ones no one played, and relying a little less on Wikipedia. That said, the content about the games you guys played was great. The only Ultima I remember was the one for NES. I mainly remember that you could attack anyone. Since I was about 7 when I played, i tried attacking a towns person and was killed by guards. I don't think I ever made it out of the town before we had to return it from the place we rented it at.
    Yeah, I actually spent a little time before the show trying to find a better source to use to talk about the first three games, but failed to find one. We were in kind of a unique position with the Ultima series, as it's not currently easily-available for digital purchase, so none of us could refresh ourselves on the games beforehand.

    Thanks for the feedback!
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • KyoskeKyoske Member Full Members
    edited May 2011
    Ocelot said:
    Yeah, I actually spent a little time before the show trying to find a better source to use to talk about the first three games, but failed to find one. We were in kind of a unique position with the Ultima series, as it's not currently easily-available for digital purchase, so none of us could refresh ourselves on the games beforehand.

    Thanks for the feedback!

    Yeah, and it was very understandable that you guys would have that issue, and explained it up front. That's what I enjoyed. It made me not ask "Why did they bring this up?" Again, this was a fun track to listen to. I enjoyed learning that Ultima got better. It was also good to know why it was so...special to begin with. I mean when you are working from scratch it is all pretty impressive.

    I look forward to the return of the Scottish guest star! While Harvest Moon was long, it was at least something I listened to with interest during my work out. As for Super Robot Wars....I must admit it is one of the few podcasts i had to fast forward through a lot of. After the 90 minute mark, I was still pretty confused how the game even worked or what the point was. Still....the fact that the podcast was 4 hours, let me know one thing....the game must be pretty cool! Alas, I shall never get to play it, but I appreciated knowing about it.

    Can't wait to hear all about Rune Factory (since you guys reference it so much) since I have never played it!

    Keep up the great work guys.
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