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Lightning Rides Again

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edited September 2012 in Latest Updates
After weeks of teasing gamers with a true finale to Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning's saga is now taking a different direction.

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  • ChickenGodChickenGod Overdosing Heavenly Bliss Moderators
    edited September 2012
    Lightning the only playable character? Is it gonna be like an ARPG, or The Last Story where all you are allowed to play as is Zael? Not sure what to think yet, but they certainly didnt win me over with that little tidbit of information there.
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  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Noo, they were supposed to be bad forever.
  • ClixClix Never Google Image Search Full Members
    edited September 2012
    To me, it sounds like the game will play out like the 2006 trailer. About time.


    ...Not that I'll play it.
  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited September 2012
    I want more info on this...to see how good it is.
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  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited September 2012
    1UP has a full preview.
  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited September 2012
    "That info just totally melted my face off."

    They already had me with a time system similar to Majora's Mask, but adding in the Dragon Quarter stuff? YOU HAVE MY MONEY SE, YOU HAVE ALL OF IT!
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  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited September 2012
    It sounds a lot like the original Valkyrie Profile (ie the good one). I wonder if Tri-Ace are working on this as well.
  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited September 2012
    ThroneofDravaris said:
    It sounds a lot like the original Valkyrie Profile (ie the good one). I wonder if Tri-Ace are working on this as well.
    That's all they'd need to do to guarantee a Day 1 from people...especially if they mentioned "with help of the team that brought you Valkyrie Profile." If they said that, I SWEAR TO THE GAMING GODS I'd absolutely flip, scream like a schoolgirl, and faint.
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  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited September 2012
    From all the info above except that it's made from the Valkyrie Profile team, this will most likely end up on my most hated games ever list!
    - only one playable character
    - day/night cycle
    - customization
    So many game killers in one game. Wow.
  • DaylightDiesDaylightDies Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    I'm excited. I loved XIII-2, was lukewarm on XIII but I'm always happy to see an original Final Fantasy release. It would have been nice if they went less modern with the combat, I'd love to see some menu driven combat.. but I guess at this point that might be unrealistic.

    I'm also a little hesitant on the idea of no party members... one of my favorite aspects of RPGs is having a party... but overall I can't wait
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  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Rya.Reisender said:

    - only one playable character
    - day/night cycle
    - customization
    So many game killers in one game. Wow.
    Do you decide the things you don't like by throwing darts at a mind-map?
  • ChickenGodChickenGod Overdosing Heavenly Bliss Moderators
    edited September 2012
    Reading that article makes me very skeptical of how much I'll enjoy the game. Personally, the Dragon Quarter time limit and time currency thing is a HUGE turnoff. If theres one thing I hate in gaming, its permanent choice regarding the little things. There have been times where I enjoyed the day/night cycle (Xenoblade), but usually its just an annoyance of trying to find when you need to talk to a person. Couple that with a time limit that may not let you figure this out on your own? Yeah, doesn't sound very appealing. Sounds like it might be much shorter than the previous two as well, but we'll see. I'm also hoping more of the maps aren't just rehashes from FF13. Many people may not have noticed, but something like 7 or more area maps were copied straight from 13 and pasted into 13-2, and pretty much recycled again when you visited them in a different time. I'm also not pleased that it follows in the footsteps of 13-2's story.

    Some things sound okay and of course we'll have to see more, but ultimately I'm not really all that thrilled about what the project is supposedly shaping up to be.
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  • QuinQuin ne cede malis RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2012
    I am OK with this.
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  • watcherwatcher Veteran RPGamer Full Members
    edited September 2012
    So FFXIII meets BoF:DQ, plus VP, plus LoZ: MM? Well, I was never big on Majora's Mask, but the rest sound like improvements to me. But then, I'm often in the minority liking Dragon Quarter and all.
  • TheAnimeManTheAnimeMan Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Half of me wants to buy this, the other half of me wants to punch babies

    To expand I hate Dragon Quarter with a passion, there is a reason why the series hasn't been looked at by Capcom again and that game is it. Lets also add in the fact you have to DIE, and possibly do so repeatedly to actually beat the game is a really bad idea.

    Then they are taking Lightning and putting her in a game on her own. Which to me sounds more like a cop out to wanting to shovel money since some people, as proven by a friend "I don't know what to say about it, other than I really do like Lightning." This ALONE is going to be the reason a lot of people are going to buy it.

    A Day/Night thing will not bother me to much. DQ3, 4, and 5 had day and night (though limitedly so in DQ5) and played just fine to me. Day and night I have no issue with. The fact Lightning is the solo playable character is no issue. The world actually sounds kinda intriguing cause we see more then we have previously seen.

    I had no issue with XIII or XIII-2. This one sounds even more of a turn off for me as an RPG player then the last two installments. It almsot sounds like some bad mishmash of the games already listed in the thread PLUS Dirge of Cerberus, which honestly is a Moo game.

    Also for those talking about Tri-Ace on this. Lets not forget, as the 1Up article mentions that they DID work on FFXIII-2. And they also did SO4, VP: CotP, and a few other games lately, that for all intensive purposes not lived up to expectations. So going "Oh wait the VP people are working on this", doesn't mean it'll be any good cause look at their track record as a whole.

    Now for SE's sake I hope the game does well, cause I'd hate to lose them as a possible avenue of new games in the future. But they need some new blood. Even Sakaguchi (who left them) hasn't exactly been churning out grade A hits.

    I will approaching this one, like I did FFXIII and FFXIII-2 with some caution. Although I enjoyed parts of FFXIII, and was vastly addicted to FFXIII-2, this one I'm definitely more leery of.
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  • KiralynKiralyn Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    >reads RPGamer article<

    ....wha? O_o

    Not having played Majora's Mask or VP, I have no idea what references to those really mean. I vaguely recall Dragon Quarter (...reads 1UP article.... ah! So the time limit will be more DQ and less, say, the obnoxious time management of Persona....)

    Hmm. Not sure what to think. A bit uncertain about the "it's an action game!" combat system. I kind of miss menus. Ones that you actually have time to use (unlike, say, 13 and 13-2's "furiously hit buttons and choose Auto"... but, thinking about that, perhaps giving up the menus and going full action, instead of the super-action-menu hybrid thing, might be better. Go one way or the other, rather than an unsatisfying mix.)

    Personally, I liked 13 well enough, and wasn't fond of 13-2 (less interesting main characters, and then the way-too-nonlinear "where the frak do I go now" time-travel/exploration that made it quite frustrating and undirected. Like 10-2, it came across as a bunch of sidequests in search of a plot, only even more disconnected.)


    Oh, and big question - I didn't get any of the 13-2 DLC. Are any of them (like, say, Lightning's) absolutely required to get the proper story & actually get an ending, before going in to 13-3?
  • Zeboyd GamesZeboyd Games Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    TheAnimeMan said:
    To expand I hate Dragon Quarter with a passion, there is a reason why the series hasn't been looked at by Capcom again and that game is it. Lets also add in the fact you have to DIE, and possibly do so repeatedly to actually beat the game is a really bad idea.
    I don't know about Lightning Rides Again, but it is not necessary to die to beat Dragon Quarter. You can play through the entire game without having to restart a single time (and I've done it).
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  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited September 2012
    ThroneofDravaris said:
    Do you decide the things you don't like by throwing darts at a mind-map?
    I just have very good knowledge about games and my taste in games, so it's very easy for me to conclude if I like or hate a game just by reading 1-2 sentences on how it's like or just looking at a few screenshots. My deduction is to 90% correct. It's very rare that I assume that I won't like a game and end up liking it.
  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited September 2012
    Zeboyd Games said:
    I don't know about Lightning Rides Again, but it is not necessary to die to beat Dragon Quarter. You can play through the entire game without having to restart a single time (and I've done it).
    Glad to know that I'm not the only one who pulled that off. It's one hell of a challenge ride if it's your first playthrough, and it's a shame the subsequent playthroughs are so damn easy in comparison.
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  • scorpio_7scorpio_7 Tactic's Ogre I choose u! Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Well this is sad news for me, considering square keeps stripping away game features that I enjoy. This may be a fun game for some people, and if it is like Valkyrie Profile then thats a different story and my opinion may change. But to me it doesnt read like anything like that game, especially with only 1 playable character.

    Every FF game they release, for me, gets worse and worse. I couldn't care less about another Lightning game, I want FF15 announced with a new cast and true FF game features. The only thing I can hold out hope for with this company anymore is remakes of the older games and titles like Final Fantasy Dimenions.
  • AurianAurian Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    I agree with scorpio. Didn't enjoy FFXIII. Didn't finish FFXIII-2. And now they are rehashing it again? And putting in MORE "features" I don't enjoy? This will be the first FF I pass entirely.
  • Final NightFinal Night Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Very limited interest on my part. XIII-2's story was a mess and unwieldy. The part about this being way in the future after XIII-2 is ridiculous.
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  • lolwhoopslolwhoops Member HalifaxFull Members
    edited September 2012
    yay! another FF game I'll be getting.....in the bargain bin for less than $20! Woo woo, let's continue this FFXIII train wreck!
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  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Aurian said:
    I agree with scorpio. Didn't enjoy FFXIII. Didn't finish FFXIII-2. And now they are rehashing it again? And putting in MORE "features" I don't enjoy? This will be the first FF I pass entirely.
    +1 exactly my thoughts

    Though I might still grab it if it drops below $20.
  • Lodor3Lodor3 Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Just sounds like s/e is jumping on the gow/ac/darksiders,etc. action adventure games with rpg elements except they have a atb system instead of those games qte system.

    I just hope this isnt a sign of the direction they plan on taking the series now. They need to go back and look at what made the name for the game and design that way instead of trying to jump on other games band wagons and turning out turds.
  • Confessor RahlConfessor Rahl Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Sooo... wait.... is that really, truly the name of the game?
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  • ClixClix Never Google Image Search Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Confessor Rahl said:
    Sooo... wait.... is that really, truly the name of the game?
    Looks like it.

    But we all'll probably just call it FFXIII-3.
  • MaudrenMaudren i can post! thanx paws! Full Members
    edited September 2012
    I like the Lightning character a lot, but just like I did with 13-2, I will probably skip this new game entirely.

    I am still holding out for Versus 13 though. I have a nagging feeling that that game will be epic.
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  • Lodor3Lodor3 Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    From what "rumors" I have heard around the net lately is that versus mechanics were gutted and put into this new ff13 lightning game and versus may never exist ever.
  • CidolfasCidolfas Member Full Members
    edited September 2012
    Very skeptical here. It's possible (just) to pull off this kind of "you have X amount of time to finish" well. VP did a good job because it limited the number of quests available at any given time. You didn't feel lost, you had a decent amount of direction, and the extra time periods could be used to level or explore. This sounds like they're just going to be throwing you into a wide-open sandbox and let you figure everything out yourself. Forcing you to die if you miss the mark is a cop-out and may result in lots of repetitious play.

    I'll wait for reviews (natch) but unlike almost every FF game so far which I've had the console for, this is not an automatic buy for me.
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