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Poll: Age

JuMeSynJuMeSyn Code: KirinAdministrators
edited January 2013 in Latest Updates
What age would you like your protagonist to be?
Under 14
14-17
18-21
22-29
30-40
Over 40
It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.
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  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I'm tired of childish / teenage heroes. That is all.
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited December 2012
    I generally prefer anything over 18. Though now that I'm in my 30s, my preference is leaing towards post-college-age.
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  • PawsPaws BEARSONA RPGamer Staff
    edited December 2012
    I care less about the age and more about the personality :)
  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited December 2012
    22 and older. Seriously, give us adult protagonists.
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  • JormungandJormungand Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    DarkRPGMaster said:
    22 and older. Seriously, give us adult protagonists.
    This.

    I do have to Echo Paw's statement though: personality and development is key. However, with teenagers and below, development is extremely predictable. This is less because young people aren't interesting, and more because writers don't know how to write.

    Ideally, I want adult characters who are well-developed. Who doesn't?
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited December 2012
    Paws said:
    I care less about the age and more about the personality :)
    True, the characters in the Persona games (especially 4) are amazing because they actaully seem like teenagers.
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  • BalanceBalance Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I think the survey reflects that there is at least one generation of gamers who are adults now and want their own adult themed games and a more mature protagnonist to identify with. As we have grown more assured and confident of our tastes, we want an alternative to the "coming of age" style games where the protagonist struggles with puberty , making friends and emotional problems as well as the fight against evil.
    Of course role-playing games are about trying a role other than you are and we may want to relive that abdolescence, but it is interesting in games such as Diablo 3 where all the classes are clearly adult, with the barbarian looking like a middle-aged or older veteran with iron grey hair.
  • Strawberry EggsStrawberry Eggs The Bemused Administrators
    edited December 2012
    I have to agree with Paws and Ocelot. If I find a lead character likeable and with a great or interesting personality, then I don't care how old he or she is. It also helps greatly if it's a dynamic character who clearly grows and changes over the course of the game.
    " I think this is why aging makes humans die! "
  • LOLOttertardLOLOttertard Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I picked 22-29 since I'm in that age range, I definitely prefer adult protagonists since I am of course an adult, and want my RPG plots to be more mature than usual.
  • Confessor RahlConfessor Rahl Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    DarkRPGMaster said:
    22 and older. Seriously, give us adult protagonists.
    This. This. This.
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  • watcherwatcher Veteran RPGamer Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I like protagonists that aren't idiots. Too many of the teen characters seem to be of below average competence to make the average person feel superior to the protagonist, which seems condescending to me. I'd like to see some Jade Curtis or Gandalf types in the lead every now and then.
  • BalanceBalance Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    hehe I bought two games when I got my PSP, Jeanne D'arc and Valkyria chronicales two. I loved the protagonist-Jeanne D'arc and in fact the rest of the cast, she was a believable portrayal of what the historical character. In Valkyria chronicles 2 however we have laughing idiot boy Avan, whose irritating laugh will haunt me forever, strangely the characters in VC2 remind me of Bleach, except Avan is nowhere as cool as Ichigo, we have a blonde cutie and the bespectacles dark haird serious rival.
  • Berserk_AlucardBerserk_Alucard Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I went for 22-29, which is my age group incidentally. However, I probably would have gone for this when I was a bit younger as well. I like protagonists that are a bit more mature and older than their teens. Please, no more characters like Tidus...
  • Fowl SorcerousFowl Sorcerous Dread News Editor RPGamer Staff
    edited December 2012
    i don't mind teenagers, if they act like teenager and do generally teenaged things. but don't try and sell me that 15 year old is an elite commando.
  • RyumoauRyumoau Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I would like my hero to be around 30-40. Mature enough for me to actually take him seriously, yet not so old that he can't actually fight.
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  • MinneyarMinneyar Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I'm trying to think of RPGs where the main character is over 40, and I actually can't think of very many. NieR, Planescape: Torment... FFIV: The After Years, depending on who you consider to be the main character... any others?

    The first two of those are pretty awesome, at least.
  • The Last PaladinThe Last Paladin Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    I would love to see more leading characters around the same age of Nier. Somebody who's old enough to maybe have a little kid or something and already know a bit about life, yet still have more room to grow.
  • The Last PaladinThe Last Paladin Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    Minneyar said:
    I'm trying to think of RPGs where the main character is over 40, and I actually can't think of very many. NieR, Planescape: Torment... FFIV: The After Years, depending on who you consider to be the main character... any others?

    The first two of those are pretty awesome, at least.
    Yep you're right. Maybe the main character in "To the Moon?" Haven't played the game yet (its in my backlog) but I guess you could consider him a main character that's over 40.
  • noodlenoodle Kirby: El Presidente RPGamer Staff
    edited December 2012
    22-29 please! so i dont feel bad about thinking he is hot.
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  • MinneyarMinneyar Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    The Last Paladin said:
    I would love to see more leading characters around the same age of Nier. Somebody who's old enough to maybe have a little kid or something and already know a bit about life, yet still have more room to grow.
    That's one of the reasons that I really liked NieR. I thought it was really refreshing to look at things from the perspective of a grizzled "old man" who would do anything for his daughter rather than a plucky young upstart who wants to prove himself to the world. I don't know if I want all of my protagonists to be 40+, but having a few more would definitely be nice.
  • PimpaliciousPimpalicious Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    It doesn't matter to me so I like the characters.

    40+ could be interesting though, don't see that often. Nier is the only one I know of.
  • BogrotBogrot New Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    Wasn't the protagonist in Dragon Fantasy an older guy? Waiting for the vita version before I play it but I thought the concept was an ex-adventurer who's grown fat and has to get back out there. Might be wrong though- like I say, not played it.
  • JitawaJitawa Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    This question could be paired with "Do you find very-young characters in your RPG parties annoying?" Answer: YES YES YES

    As a side note, this is why Yuri is my favorite Tales protagonist, because he's seemingly the most mature (as an.. ex military guy at 21 or whatever... /sigh). I don't want to get "biased", but I swear this is more of a problem with jrpgs.

    It's become something of a known statistic that "most" gamers are in the adult bracket now. However, in Japan it seems like the target audience for RPGs is still sort of in the tween area. I don't entirely understand that.

    Still, I can't stress how much more I appreciate the complexity and depth that you can layer in with a more mature protagonist. This isn't just a Mass Effect sort of "mature alien sex!" or gore/gore/gore kind of thing, but rather the emotional complexity afforded by the responsibilities and cognition we expect to be present in games like Nier, Torment, and so on.
  • SiliconNooBSiliconNooB Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    Twenty-two or older.
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  • ClixClix Never Google Image Search Full Members
    edited December 2012
    Jitawa said:
    As a side note, this is why Yuri is my favorite Tales protagonist, because he's seemingly the most mature (as an.. ex military guy at 21 or whatever... /sigh). I don't want to get "biased", but I swear this is more of a problem with jrpgs.

    It's become something of a known statistic that "most" gamers are in the adult bracket now. However, in Japan it seems like the target audience for RPGs is still sort of in the tween area. I don't entirely understand that.
    Well, this likely stems from the very different market of Japan, where it's expected, as an adult, that you do not have free time for games or other "childish" hobbies. If you do, it must be because you are an unemployed man-child. At least, this tends to be the mindset of the past generations, and their mindset tends to dominate public thought do to societal conformity. Thus, it'll be rare to find young adults still gaming, since a lot of them would see it as being childish because that's how the older generations have decided it is*.



    * I am no expert of Japan, so take anything I saw with a grain of salt.
  • JormungandJormungand Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    Clix said:
    Well, this likely stems from the very different market of Japan, where it's expected, as an adult, that you do not have free time for games or other "childish" hobbies. If you do, it must be because you are an unemployed man-child.
    It seems that if this is true, game developers themselves are immune. I've read several interviews with Japanese game music composers (many who are age 35+), for example, who will refer to their "favorite video game" to play (and it's not just the games they wrote music for!)

    Perhaps as a developer your game-playing would be considered research. :p
  • ClixClix Never Google Image Search Full Members
    edited December 2012
    Jormungand said:
    It seems that if this is true, game developers themselves are immune. I've read several interviews with Japanese game music composers (many who are age 35+), for example, who will refer to their "favorite video game" to play (and it's not just the games they wrote music for!)

    Perhaps as a developer your game-playing would be considered research. :p
    Yes and no. There in lies some of the hypocrisy: They've made it "big," so they are the exception. As long as one isn't a starving artist, they are rarely looked down upon as a professional.
  • HrugnerHrugner New Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    The age of characters in RPGs is very rarely dealt with in a competent manner. Typically their age dictates their appearance and the cosmetic features of their mcguffin. Games trend toward the same problems that young adult literature have, treating age and level of social responsibility as problems that need to be solved rather than character elements that need to be addressed.

    Child heroes don't struggle with a world that won't deal with them or where things are made for people twice their size. Why would a weapons dealer hand military grade equipment over to a petulant teen looking to make is name in the world. Why would any sort of vendor not call some sort of legal authority to track down obvioualy battered and bruised child hero forced out into the world through hard circumstance.

    Adult heroes may need to rescue their "child as damsel" but they rarely have the difficulty of resolving their responsibility as a parent with some other responsibility. Should we be surprised when the protagonist has everything they care about taken from them? Of course villains burned down your village or captured your loved ones, if you had responsibilities back home the story would be all complicated.

    Frankly, its disappointing.

    Personally, I would love to see a game with a child protagonist (7ish) that was unflinching in presenting the sorts of threats that a child of that age would face trying to make their way in the world. Poor reading comprehension, not taken seriously by adults, the constant threat of being a victim of malice and misguided benevolence, the lack of strength to do any real damage to anything. It would make for easily the most terrifying sort of game imaginable if you could really put the player in their shoes.
  • KiralynKiralyn Member Full Members
    edited December 2012
    Picked 22-29 as well. But I waffled over 18-21.... that can be an ok choice, if it's properly supported by/fits the the story.
  • DravDrav A Serious Man Full Members
    edited December 2012
    As long as I have complete control over their personality and the actions I take within the game, I don't really care. I guess if we are just talking about aesthetics I prefer older, Frank Miller-y protagonists. One of the reasons I was interested in Game of Thrones even though it was obviously going to suck was because one of the two characters you play was an old, grizzled war veteran.
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