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Poll - Sega Stuff

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edited May 2013 in Latest Updates
What long-absent Sega RPG franchise most needs to return?
Dragon Force
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Phantasy Star - Offline
Oasis
Skies of Arcadia
Shining Force
Shenmue
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  • ChickenGodChickenGod Overdosing Heavenly Bliss Moderators
    edited April 2013
    Dragon Force needs to, still haven't played anything like it to this day. Granted I never played 2, but the first game was one of my favorites growing up and offered plenty of replay value and that feeling of addiction trying to acquire and upgrade new commanders.
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  • ShayminShaymin The Gratitude Pokemon Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Shenmue 1 killed the Dreamcast.
    Shenmue 2 killed Sega as an independent company.

    Ergo, every time someone votes for Shenmue, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens. (I went Skies of Arcadia, for what it's worth.)
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  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited April 2013
    Skies of Arcadia. It was so good, that Vyse and Aika's had a playable cameo appearance in Valkyria Chronicles.
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  • omegabyteomegabyte He's just this guy, you know? RPGamer Staff
    edited April 2013
    I think it's gotta be Phantasy Star. The PSO-style games are all pretty much terrible, but at the same time I can see so much potential in the universe. They need to do a story-driven, single player Phantasy Star again.
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  • TG BarighmTG Barighm Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Damn, they're all good! I can't pick just one.

    Hopefully that Arcadia re-submission I spotted a while back turns into something.
  • JormungandJormungand Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    I voted Shining Force. They were some of the most solid (if slightly simplistic) tactical RPGs ever.

    Also, Panzer Dragoon Saga has a very good chance of being revived... in spirit. Creator Yukio Futatsugi and his new team Grounding Inc. developed Crimson Dragon. The Kinect title that has yet to be released (and the delay is making us suspect controller support is being added because no one likes Kinect) is basically Panzer Dragoon in everything but name. Futatsugi stated in an interview that he's very interested in creating a "Crimson Dragon RPG". :)
  • TheAnimeManTheAnimeMan Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Im not sure why SHining Force is on the list as games are still being made in the series though many of the recent ones have not been coming over
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  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited April 2013
    TheAnimeMan said:
    Im not sure why SHining Force is on the list as games are still being made in the series though many of the recent ones have not been coming over
    Shining games are being made, but those games are NOT Shining Force. Yes, some have had tactical elements, but they are not Shining Force.
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  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited April 2013
    TheAnimeMan said:
    Im not sure why SHining Force is on the list as games are still being made in the series though many of the recent ones have not been coming over
    This. If anything, we just need them localized, meaning somebody at Sega needs to start paying attention to the RPG needs of the west. Shining Blade would have been AMAZING to play...since it used the same battle system as Valkyria Chronicles.
    Macstorm said:
    Shining games are being made, but those games are NOT Shining Force. Yes, some have had tactical elements, but they are not Shining Force.
    EDIT: Now that my mind has kicked in, yes, it would be nice seeing another Shining Force game on those lines. Resurrection of the Dark Dragon is a good direction on where they need to go...meaning remakes/ports.
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  • Strawberry EggsStrawberry Eggs The Bemused Administrators
    edited April 2013
    I voted for Skies of Arcadia, as that hasn't even had to chance to be a series at all. Most of the other games that I have played on this list at least have a few entries per series.
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  • XR2XR2 Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    If I had to pick just one I'd go with Phantasy Star. But really I just want to say "Yes Please" for all of the above.
  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited April 2013
    I don't know why so many people vote for Skies of Arcadia, that game wasn't exactly good and the mechanics made it REALLY slow and boring. It rather makes me want to NOT have a sequel. I mean the story was good and all, but when you think of sequel you usually would mean you want the same game mechanics again.

    In that respect for me only Shining Force and Phantasy Star are relevant. And Shining Force still more than Phantasy Star.

    There is no other game like Shining Force 1&2, namely:
    - it's an RPG outside of battles, you can run around, explore towns, visit shops, find hidden passanges, treasure chests and hidden members, so many secrets!!!
    - the SRPG controls are much more intuitive in than any other SRPG I've played so far, usually just to move a unit you need to press so many arrow keys and buttons that it feels really annoying, but in Shining Force you can just directly move the unit and the menu is just pressing one of the fair directional keys and confirm

    Why I want a sequel to Phantasy Star Offline is mostly because:
    - the dungeon design was really amazing, you have to have a good memory to master them, no easy-mode minimaps or walk linear paths
    - instant escape spells and items allow you to keep your progress and be able to explore the dungeon further the next tries

    There are other good things about PS like the awesome music and the setting, but I guess that doesn't have to do much to do with needing a sequel either, just like with the story.
  • QuinQuin ne cede malis RPGamer Staff
    edited April 2013
    Skies of Arcadia, hands down.
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  • PretzelPretzel New Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    I'm sorry but to me this is the impossible quiz. I agree with many of the previous posts with their single votes, but there REALLY needed to be a "multiple pick" option. Seriously, out of that list the only two games I would NOT want to see remade were Shenmue and Oasis. I'd sell my body (like anyone would want it) to get a new Shining Force or SOA game. Or better yet, get Sega to actually release the complete Shining Force III in the US! Dragon Force was amazing and one of the reasons I owned a Saturn. Sadly, I was unable to ever acquire a copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga to play :-(. 2 of my friends have it and they hover over it like it was made of diamonds, which I may well be. Phantasy Star... ahhhhhhhh. I miss the heck out of those games. I remember being introduced to Phantasy Star II in middle to high school and played the living crap out of it. When III came out I happily spent the obnoxious $80 or so bucks for it and, while it was crappy compared to the others, I enjoyed the multiple endings. Still have one ending to go though after all these years... Then IV came out and once again blew me away. That the Genesis was even capable of PSIV amazes me to this day. And of course shout out to PS1 which I had the Master System converter on my Genesis to play. I know some may not remember Shining In The Darkness, but I loved that game as well. I remember mapping out the more difficult mazes and playing it day in and day out for months. I'd gladly pull it out and play it again if life wasn't so busy as an adult :-p. In a nutshell, there are too many games that I think we would ALL love to see a GOOD sequel too. Not just old Sega either. There were many amazing 8 and 16 bit rpgs that so desperately need a good remake or sequel. on Snes alone i'd love to see Breath of Fire, Earthbound, Brandish, Arcana, etc (not Drakken, that game was puke). This list could go insanely long if old PC games were included like the Gold Box AD&D and Buck Rogers games came into the equation. Ok, old man rambling done :-).
  • SiliconNooBSiliconNooB Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Skies of Arcadia - the world needs it!
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  • Sega_FanboiSega_Fanboi New Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    ALL OF THEM. Then Sega can achieve Full Spectrum Dominance in the RPG space and take over the world from there. :smug:

    But I'll take Phantasy Star Offline and Panzer Dragoon. But Crimson Dragon though, hmmm...

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  • PimpaliciousPimpalicious Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    I would love to see a sequel for Dragon Force, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Phantasy Star, or Shining Force. Or even just get a release of Dragon Force 2 and Shining Force III parts 2 and 3 released in the US somehow. Skies of Arcadia is very good as well but not one of my favorites.

    My favorite Sega RPG would be Shining the Holy Ark, would really like see another first person Shining game.
    ChickenGod said:
    Dragon Force needs to, still haven't played anything like it to this day. Granted I never played 2, but the first game was one of my favorites growing up and offered plenty of replay value and that feeling of addiction trying to acquire and upgrade new commanders.
    The closest game to it really is Ogre Battle 64. It doesn't have the big battles between armies, but the movement and strategy are similar in a few ways.
  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Played Shining in the Darkness yet?

    I'd also simply want Shining Force 3 and Shining The Holy Ark released in Europe on a system that I have, never could play those. I'd probably even get Generations (the one with updated graphics) if it was released here.

    And of course another Shining first person dungeon crawler just like you said. :-)
    On the Legend of Grimrock forums there was a thread what everyone's favorite dungeon crawler was and then I posted Shining in the Darkness there and actually some people agreed with me! That made me happy.
  • flamethrowerflamethrower Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Rya.Reisender said:
    I don't know why so many people vote for Skies of Arcadia, ...
    I'm with Rya. It doesn't need a sequel. Unlike Rya, I think it was a good game, but it hasn't aged well and therefore doesn't need a sequel.
  • JitawaJitawa Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    I feel odd thinking of Skies of Arcadia as a "franchise". It doesn't strike me as something that needs an update or sequel (and I liked it alright). I do think a well-crafted offline Phantasy Star that was divorced from the horror that was the single-player Phantasy Star Universe (whatever the 360 one was) would be cool.
  • LordKaiserLordKaiser Under watcher Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Phantasy Star - Offline

    It's being too long from Phantasy Star IV on the Genesis/Megadrive.
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  • PimpaliciousPimpalicious Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Rya.Reisender said:
    Played Shining in the Darkness yet?

    Yep(first time was on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection), I like Holy Ark better but they're both great games.
  • ChickenGodChickenGod Overdosing Heavenly Bliss Moderators
    edited April 2013
    This thread actually inspired me to finally play through all 3 Shining Force 3s, seeing as how I never even finished the first one due to my Saturn biting the dust. Hopefully they're as good as the hype!
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  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited April 2013
    flamethrower said:
    I'm with Rya. It doesn't need a sequel. Unlike Rya, I think it was a good game, but it hasn't aged well and therefore doesn't need a sequel.
    I didn't say it wasn't a good game, just that the game mechanics felt really slow and are nothing I'd like to see in another game.
    The only concept that could be carried over are the ship battles, but in a COMPLETELY different battle system that's actually fun and not just filling bars.

    Don't people like SoA because of the feeling of adventure mainly? That doesn't require a sequel, you could make any unique game and give it a feeling of adventure.
    ChickenGod said:
    This thread actually inspired me to finally play through all 3 Shining Force 3s, seeing as how I never even finished the first one due to my Saturn biting the dust. Hopefully they're as good as the hype!
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  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited April 2013
    Given the recent popularity of first person dungeon crawling games I'd love a remake of Shining the Holy Ark
  • Zeboyd GamesZeboyd Games Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Rya.Reisender said:

    There is no other game like Shining Force 1&2, namely:
    - it's an RPG outside of battles, you can run around, explore towns, visit shops, find hidden passanges, treasure chests and hidden members, so many secrets!!!
    - the SRPG controls are much more intuitive in than any other SRPG I've played so far, usually just to move a unit you need to press so many arrow keys and buttons that it feels really annoying, but in Shining Force you can just directly move the unit and the menu is just pressing one of the fair directional keys and confirm
    Actually, Arc the Lad 2 & 3 are like that.
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  • ArticianArtician Member Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Personally an "all of the above" option would suit me just fine.
  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited April 2013
    Zeboyd Games said:
    Actually, Arc the Lad 2 & 3 are like that.
    I wouldn't really call those SRPGs, though. The battles are simply too short and occur too often that it feels more like Chrono Trigger, an RPG with round-based (well almost for CT) on-screen battles.
  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited April 2013
    Rya.Reisender said:
    I wouldn't really call those SRPGs, though. The battles are simply too short and occur too often that it feels more like Chrono Trigger, an RPG with round-based (well almost for CT) on-screen battles.
    how do shorter battles make it not an SRPG?
  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited April 2013
    Wheels said:
    how do shorter battles make it not an SRPG?
    This. Do you not realize how fast you can actively complete a fight in games like Disgaea, Final Fantasy Tactics, Shining Force, etc? I can end a fight in Final Fantasy Tactics and Disgaea in less than 5 minutes.
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