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Poll - Digital

JuMeSynJuMeSyn Code: KirinAdministrators
edited October 2013 in Latest Updates
What's your stance on digital-only releases?
Preferred
Better than nothing
Refuse to patronize
It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.

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  • smacdsmacd Full Members
    edited August 2013
    I've got a mixed opinion. It depends on a lot of things.

    In many cases, I've preferred the physical copies, although having the ability to go digital is nice. I've loved smaller games as digital, like most XBLA games, but for the most part I haven't touched Games on Demand.

    On the other hand, I've gone completely digital with my PSP at this point. Its easier to go full digital with a handheld. But the 3DS is a different story. I'd love to go digital only for the 3DS as well, but a lot of retail games aren't available, and my biggest issue is that Nintendo doesn't have a proper account system. So at this point, until Nintendo figures it out, I only get VC games and games that are only digital releases in that format.

    When it really comes down to it, I'd go fully digital in most cases if any of the major console/handheld makers did it right. When the digital price is the same or higher than what I could buy a physical copy for, I'll get physical. There is absolutely no reason that the digital price shouldn't be cheaper than the physical price, since they no longer have a lot of the added costs physical release entails. But right now they are too slow to release, too slow to drop the price, and too slow to get me interested.

    And then there is the Vita. I'd go digital only there too, if I had one. But the price of the proprietary memory sticks are downright criminal. I balked at paying $100 for a 120GB hard drive for my 360 years ago, but $100 for 32GB is ridiculous. Its hard to consider going full digital with the Vita when the price of entry is that high.

    The PC has a lot of well thought out and well designed models, both in Steam and GOG. I prefer GOG for lack of DRM, but Steam has its uses as well. The Steam model in particular would have made a lot of sense for the next console generation, I'm still shocked they didn't go full digital. Microsoft could have saved a lot of face if they had. I can see myself going full digital in the future, once the companies get their acts together and do it in a customer friendly way.

    And in most cases, I'm ok with digital only releases. XBLA has been great, and I think its a cheaper way for distributing games that may not have been seen otherwise, like Unchained Blades and Ace Attorney on the 3DS.
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited August 2013
    Nowadays I prefer digital on my PC and portables, and physical for home consoles (unless of course it's a free game on PlayStation Plus). Once console hard drives get bigger, I'll probably get digital for every game I'm sure of unless there are some really cool physical goodies that come with the game.
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  • PawsPaws Purr RPGamer Staff
    edited August 2013
    I'm pretty firmly digital, with the exception of 3DS games -- we can't share them across multiple systems unless it's a physical copy, and even then DLC is a pain.
  • TG BarighmTG Barighm Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    I like digital for those good games I like, but can't really bring myself to buy at full price. Nowadays you see digital versions of those games popping up for $5 or so, so it's worth waiting. I prefer physical copies of games I really like.
  • Strawberry EggsStrawberry Eggs The Bemused Administrators
    edited August 2013
    I'll take digital when it's the only viable way to get it. I'm old fashion and something of a collector, so I like to have physical copies when I can.
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  • ClixClix Never Google Image Search Full Members
    edited August 2013
    I prefer to have the physical so I can keep it forever OR resale to recoup some of the cost. However, I think it's great to have older games available for digital download when it becomes impossible to get them in stores or costs an arm-and-leg online. But for something new? Never. I just don't see the point. It'd have to cost 80% less than physical retail to be a viable option to me.
  • ShayminShaymin The Gratitude Pokemon Full Members
    edited August 2013
    If digital-only is the only way to get obscure things (Phoenix Wright, Senran Kagura, etc) then I'll go that route.
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  • NimNim _ Full Members
    edited August 2013
    It depends on what kind of account system is available for the service the game is released on. I'm a digital only guy for PC. Physical only guy for 3DS. Mixed on anything else.
  • DarkRPGMasterDarkRPGMaster A Witness to Destruction Moderators
    edited August 2013
    Shaymin said:
    If digital-only is the only way to get obscure things (Phoenix Wright, Senran Kagura, etc) then I'll go that route.
    This right here. I had to go digital for Liberation Maiden, Crimson Shroud, Godhand, Odin Sphere, and a few others. I had to because I couldn't find physical copies anywhere. Anything to play the game...
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  • Miss_darkwoodMiss_darkwood Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    I'm paranoid about getting digital, especially for PC. I once downloaded a game called Memento Mori only to find out it doesn't suit my OS, did everything from update my drivers to running as admin, the only thing I didn't do was change the PC...waste of $$. I asked for a refund and never got it... I like the feeling of browsing in a gaming shop and asking the counter staff weird questions, which isn't kind of experience you'd get with digital.
  • PimpaliciousPimpalicious Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    I prefer physical copies for full games(moreso to save HD space and not have to wait forever for downloads) on consoles/handheld but if digital only, I have no problem buying them.

    I never buy physical on PC anymore.
  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Nowadays, unless it's GOG I'm firmly in the "refuse to patronize" camp. I would honestly rather a game not exist at all than only be available through submitting to online checks. As you can imagine, I rarely use my PC for gaming anymore.
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  • lynxislynxis New Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    My opinion is that I only prefer digital if I'm getting a discount, an older game or something obscure. If I'm paying $40-$60 for a major new release, I'd much rather have the physical copy.
  • LordKaiserLordKaiser Gaming Freedom Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Physical only for games who are 10GBs or more. The digital games I buy are those small $15 USD games.
    Never buy a game published by D3 Publisher that is not WKCII. They cheated on their fans by releasing a game that they didn't support not even for a year and they released a rushed translation.
  • scorpio_7scorpio_7 Tactic's Ogre I choose u! Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Definitely digital for me. When I was younger I loved having the case/box/manual for all my games. But as I get older, I'm tired of carting around all this extra stuff whenever i move and recently garbaged a whole bunch if stuff. Plus I have had games get damaged for whatever reason. So now I only buy digitally.

    Plus backward compatibility issues with systems erks me way too much.
  • MinneyarMinneyar Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    I like digital releases, but I hate DRM. So, I like buying digital when there's no DRM (GOG), don't care if it's trivial to break (PSP), and I'm willing to put up with it if it's minimally intrusive and the distribution service provides various other features and conveniences (Steam).

    In other situations, I vastly prefer physical releases and will only buy digital if it's the only way to get a game and the price is cheap.
  • GrayWolf323GrayWolf323 Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Paws said:
    I'm pretty firmly digital, with the exception of 3DS games -- we can't share them across multiple systems unless it's a physical copy, and even then DLC is a pain.
    this is where I fall as well, I am mostly digital at this point with my PS3, Vita and PC (to a lesser degree 360) but refuse to buy anything digital on 3DS due to the lack of a proper account system
  • TG BarighmTG Barighm Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    What I find more fascinating is how quickly peoples' opinions have changed about digital distribution. Just a couple years ago you'd see polls like this where the vast majority of votes favoured physical copies. By the end of those first years, it shifted to more like 50-50. Now you often see digital winning out.

    Not surprising, really. I figured this would happen. Go ahead. Check my post archive.
  • CaostotaleCaostotale Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    It depends on the game. If I can reasonably afford the games in hard copy, I'll usually go that route. However, if a good sale comes along (e.g. some of the more awesome Atlus sales on PSP titles over the past few years), I'll go that route instead. Also, as much as I like collecting retro hardware, I was more than satisfied to download several PC-Engine and Neo Geo games when they turned up on Nintendo's Virtual Console with reasonable price-tags.
  • ChickenGodChickenGod Overdosing Heavenly Bliss Moderators
    edited August 2013
    I'm in the "Better than nothing" camp mostly for the reasons Shaymin and Clix listed. That, and having relatively crappy download speeds at times. If more games like Phoenix Wright or Trails in the Sky's only hope of localization is digital distribution, then I'll gladly support them.

    Looking back, the one time I bought digital this year it bit me with not having a Club Nintendo account at the time of purchasing Fire Emblem: Awakening. Hopefully the SD card that came with the 3DS has enough blocks to support both Fire Emblem and Phoenix Wright, otherwise that decision is gonna end up costing me twice, heh.
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  • RyumoauRyumoau Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Since my ps3 stopped reading game disks a month ago, i'm stuck with digital only till ps4 arrives. I don't mind digital games since i'm not a collector and only care about the actual games, not physical bonuses that might come with them (like statutes or art books).

    One problem i have though is how unreasonably overpriced digital games are. Not just ones that are available digital but have a retail version available (like Tales of Xillia), but Digital only games like One Piece Pirate Warriors 2. That game is only available on psn in NA because it is subtitled, yet they are still pricing it at $50 when it comes out in september. That seems ridiculous to me considering they put no effort in dubbing it and its a dynasty warriors clone so there isn't that much more development put into gameplay either.

    The other issue is aimed squarely at Sony NA psn. They have recently been very lazy with preorder options on digital games. There was no preorder option for Xilla when it released 3 weeks ago, so i was completely locked out of the preorder content despite still having to pay near full price for it digitally ($54.99). They similarly have omitted pre-orders for Saints Row 4 as well. So i may not get the bonus content for that as well when the store updates later today. This wouldn't have bugged me as much as it does, had these games and much more (like Assasins Creed 4, Watch Dogs, and One Piece 2) not been available for preorder weeks ahead of time on the EU psn store. So it just comes off as disorganized laziness from the NA branch to me. I'm really hoping this improves when ps4 launches.

    Sorry for that long rant. >_<
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  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited August 2013
    You could always get your PS3 fixed or replaced. If it's not a BC model, it's $99, and I'm sure searching around the internet will get you less official, cheaper outlets like 1repairstop.com
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  • PawsPaws Purr RPGamer Staff
    edited August 2013
    I can pretty much guarantee it's that price because the licensing was expensive as hell.
  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Paws said:
    I can pretty much guarantee it's that price because the licensing was expensive as hell.
    Well, I'm not sure how Namco or Deep Silver would have licensing issue with their own games.

    Ryumaru - Yeah, Koei's getting weird with the digital-only releases. I had to import Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires from Europe because it was also digital-only in NA (And yes, it's $50, unbearable for a title with no ownership rights and only $9 than it cost me on ebay). Hopefully One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 will have a physical European release so you at least get some measure of ownership for your $50/$60.

    This reminds me, I gotta go order Vampire Resurrection off ebay and see if Chronicles of Mystara is out yet on Play-asia... The 25th of this month for that last one, isn't it?
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  • PawsPaws Purr RPGamer Staff
    edited August 2013
    Oh, you weren't aware Japanese companies can charge their US branches to licence a game? It varies from company to company, but yeah, it happens.
  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Paws said:
    Oh, you weren't aware Japanese companies can charge their US branches to licence a game? It varies from company to company, but yeah, it happens.
    Huh?

    Isn't the whole point of having a US branch so that you have no barriers to entry?

    Seriously, and then Japan wonders why it's lost so much of the global games market...
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  • RyumoauRyumoau Member Full Members
    edited August 2013
    MasterChief said:
    You could always get your PS3 fixed or replaced. If it's not a BC model, it's $99, and I'm sure searching around the internet will get you less official, cheaper outlets like 1repairstop.com
    i really considered getting it repaired but with ps4 so close to release, i just couldn't bring myself to spend that much to fix this older system. I rather just wait it out and hope Sony's Gaikai ps3 streaming service starts early next year.
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  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited August 2013
    Ryumoau said:
    i really considered getting it repaired but with ps4 so close to release, i just couldn't bring myself to spend that much to fix this older system. I rather just wait it out and hope Sony's Gaikai ps3 streaming service starts early next year.
    I personally think people are putting WAY too much faith in the Gaikai streaming. I can't see that being very fun unless you're not playing games with any real-time combat in them. Still, if nothing else, I'm sure there'll be PS3 price cuts post-PS4, and it's still in Sony's best interest to continue offering PS3 support for quite a few years after.

    Though I'm going to say that it pains me greatly to see people talk about older systems as though they were of less value than newer ones. Not gonna lie and say I'm playing my retro stuff all the time, but there's nothing that beats the feel of playing an actual NES cart when it hits ya.
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  • JuMeSynJuMeSyn Code: Kirin Administrators
    edited October 2013
    Results! (admittedly somewhat later than ideal)
    Better than nothing 1645 63.73%
    Refuse to patronize 686 26.58%
    Preferred 250 9.69%
    Total Votes 2581
    It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.
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