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RPG Backtrack: Episode 113 - Over Level 9000!

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edited March 2014 in Latest Updates
Nippon Ichi has made a number of other titles over the years, but a certain series took off in the public imagination and continues to produce fresh entries. Tactical action in the underworld with explosive Prinnies is the subject, and it's so expansive that this episode sets a new record for our length.
Go to school - or don't.
It's not what he's eating, but what's eating him that makes it ... sort of interesting.

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  • jcservantjcservant Certified Polygameist RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    A 6GB Audacity audio file boiled down to 200mbs of awesome podcasty goodness for YOUR listening pleasure! Be the first on YOUR block to hear us talk about Prinnies and stuff!!
  • ghaleon80ghaleon80 Member Full Members
    edited March 2014
    Almost 5 hours worth! If there was a podcast trophy, you have officially won it. Will be diving in later tonight
  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    ghaleon80 said:
    Almost 5 hours worth! If there was a podcast trophy, you have officially won it. Will be diving in later tonight
    A platinum trophy?
  • smacdsmacd Full Members
    edited March 2014
    it'll still be nearly 2 hours at 2.5x speed. This is going to be quite a ride.
  • jcservantjcservant Certified Polygameist RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    LOL...2.5x speed! WOW!

    I use a filter that removes 70% or so of the natural dead space. I found that since I started using it, I cannot listen to the podcasts that fast anymore. But if you can pull it off and actually still understand us, that's awesome! Let me know! LOL
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    There you go, Phil, instead of butchering our names in the usual way you can just call us Alvin, Simon, and Theodore in honour of the 2.5x speed.
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • BalanceBalance Member Full Members
    edited March 2014
    Disgaeas are of course excellent, I always like parody and don't think there are enough in games. I have to say, poor Mike's reaction to veritably curdled my blood and that show should never happen, peace man. Both Ogres conjure up good memories, of course I want moar.
  • ghaleon80ghaleon80 Member Full Members
    edited March 2014
    smacd said:
    it'll still be nearly 2 hours at 2.5x speed. This is going to be quite a ride.
    2.5x speed how dare you sir! The one time Phil has actually played all beat the games discussed and you speed it up! Although Moehnke's Agarest rant might have been even funnier in chipmunk voice haha.

    I have never actually played any of the Disgaea games but after listening I think I'll start off the series with Disgaea 3 and 4.
  • smacdsmacd Full Members
    edited March 2014
    If speeding up digital recordings made everyone sound like chipmunks, that would be hilarious. On the good side, it just sounds like people talking faster than normal. I'm just hoping I can listen this weekend (been too bogged down this week to keep up on my podcasts/gaming).

    I've been listening at 2x for about a year now, and there are some people I don't think I've ever heard speak at normal speed (or when I do, they sound like they are stuck in molassas). Been trying out faster speeds for a few weeks, due to wanting to get through monstrously long podcasts faster. 2.5x was hard to listen to, but now I'm only really having problems understanding people with thick British accents.
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    Shows my age... the last time I heard any sort of high-speed recording was on a broken tape recorder. ;)
    Becky Cunningham, Staff-at-Large
    Twitter: BeckyCFreelance
  • goateguygoateguy Member Full Members
    edited March 2014
    Ocelot said:
    Shows my age... the last time I heard any sort of high-speed recording was on a broken tape recorder. ;)
    Yeah same here....destroyed one of my dads Beach Boys cassettes by turning them into chipmunks too many times on the cassette player. ;)

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  • Strawberry EggsStrawberry Eggs The Bemused Administrators
    edited March 2014
    And here I thought I was on some long episodes. Not that I'm complaining about the length. :)

    My experience with Disgaea is still limited, oddly, to the DS incarnation of original game. I suppose it's because I have yet to play another, but it didn't feel awkward at all. I'm not sure why I haven't gone back to the series, or even just replay Disgaea DS for the other endings, as I did enjoy it.
    " I think this is why aging makes humans die! "
  • silktailsilktail mild peril Full Members
    edited March 2014
    People mostly say the first half of Bravely Default, is up to the end of Chapter 4.

    As for the Side quest in chapter 1, it does make sense why you couldn't do it straight away. But you have to do it to find that out.
    So yes, there should have been an indicator that you need to advance the main plot first. Or at least a more obvious one (knowing that people are currently working in the area you want to sneak into, isn't a clear deterrent).
  • smacdsmacd Full Members
    edited March 2014
    I listened to the podcast yesterday, trophy unlocked!

    I have no experience with Disgaea at all, and I actually had no idea what a prinny is other than hearing the term around here a few times. On the other hand, these games sound like the type of grind-fest games I'm trying to move away from in my gaming. Thanks for the run down on them
  • jcservantjcservant Certified Polygameist RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    I mostly played through just the story...and that required minimal grinding for Disgaea 1 and 2. In both of those, I would do a few run throughs of item world here and there, and a few hours or so was needed towards the last few chapters, but not too much. Disgaea 3 and especially 4 seemed to up that bar to me. But, by then, some people smarter than I have figured out really faster ways for getting where they need to be.

    I'm glad you learned from our Prinny discussion! I'd hate to think we explain things that everyone already knows.
  • VictarVictar Member Full Members
    edited March 2014
    Five hours is just too long for a podcast. Perhaps it's appropriate since the Disgaia games are also absurdly long, but... please, can we go back to short, breezy little 2-3 hour podcasts in the future?

    The link to this Disgaia podcast in the RPG Backtrack archives still isn't fixed (it connects to the previous podcast). :(

    The Agarest hatred was something to behold. I thought I hated the original Wizardry, but you, sir, put my eternal scorn for a particular RPG to shame. I am so very much looking forward to the Agarest review, if only for the schadenfreude.

    I wish to politely disagree with the naysayers who question why you review RPG Maker games, and I'm glad you agree with me and not them. I love hearing about the itty bittie, indie, or made-in-a-basement RPGs, and this is one of the only sites that covers them, unless I can find a review on GameFAQs.

    Keep up the great work!
  • jcservantjcservant Certified Polygameist RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    Thanks for your comments, Victar! We're happy to be over service.

    I hear ya about the recording time! If you've been keepin' up, you know we don't normally do 5 hours. (Personally, I blame it for bringing my computer to its knees. 6GB is too much for my 3gigs of RAM). This one happened because of a number of reasons.

    First, my computer crashed part way through our first attempt. So, we ended up recording parts of it on two separate weeks. I didn't even realize it was five hours until I edited it all together.

    Next, it's Disgaea :P And what I mean is this. The core mechanics of the series is so deep, they call for a lot of discussion. That took up the lion's share of the talk. With that foundation laid out, talking about 2, 3 and 4 just seemed to breeze by. We could have divided them into another show, but then they may not have been enough for a full show just talking about their stories (They're not THAT deep). Also, that approach would have tempted us to delve back into mechanics talk that we probably covered on the first show, taking up more time overall.

    And, of course, it doesn't help that we don't actually plan out our time. We generally talk until we're too tired. Couple that with the first issue, and the final lap would have been a lot shorter if we were doing this all in one sitting, hahahahaha.

    I've considered keeping shows on a timetable in the past, but for every comment I get about shortening the show, I get another one saying that they prefer the informal approach that lets our people go on and on without worrying too much about the clock. Interestingly enough, I was doing my annual trip to iTunes to read our comments, and one of the more recent ones said that they wished I would give our guests more leeway to talk longer on the show, lol. I can't win!
  • SeraphimKittenSeraphimKitten President of Soft Paws Full Members
    edited March 2014
    I find Disgaea fills the need for a Tactics game when I'm waiting for one with plot to come around. I found myself liking Disgaea 4, though, especially the Flashback DLC where you get to see Valvatorez and Fenric meeting for the first time. With Disgaea D2, I was finally able to realize my dream of having a male archer riding a kitten into battle... followed by my army of ninja - all of whom were riding sharks.
  • jcservantjcservant Certified Polygameist RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    That is just too cute for words, LOL.
  • MathiueMathiue New Member Full Members
    edited March 2014
    thanks for another backtrarck guys, now im totally too scared to play a disgaea for fear it will take me 100's of hours....would have been a good game to play back in the day when i had time to burn
  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited March 2014
    Mathiue said:
    thanks for another backtrarck guys, now im totally too scared to play a disgaea for fear it will take me 100's of hours....would have been a good game to play back in the day when i had time to burn
    So long as you can resist the insane amounts of optional content, most aren't super long. I finished Disgaea 3 around 30 hours (and that was my first one).
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