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Demon's Souls

Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy GroundRPGamer Staff
edited October 2009 in Staff Review Blogs
So I've finally begun playing Atlus's version of Demon's Souls, and the improvements are apparent right from the get-go. They really took the time to make the interface that much cleaner. Item and weapon descriptions that were nonsensical in the Asian version now make perfect sense, and the messages you can leave for other players are cleaner as well. Other than that, it seems to be pretty much the same game.

Anyways, I started my character as a Wanderer, who comes equipped with a falchion and some very light armor. He's agile, able to dodge easily, but he gets hit pretty hard as a result. After playing for several hours over the course of the day, I've completed World 1-1 and 1-2, the Phalanx and the Tower Knight. The former I'd seen in my playtime with the Asian version, but the latter was new, and spectacularly epic.

Imagine a typical knight with a spear and shield. Now imagine that he's two stories tall. Now imagine trying to fight this behemoth. It was pretty intense. Ultimately, going up against him in melee combat proved fruitless; I was making headway for a while, but it was just too dangerous. I ended up taking time to buy a good supply of arrows and shooting him from the ramparts surrounding the battle site. It was still a crazy fight.

At this point I've pretty well determined how I'm going to build my character. I bought some plate gauntlets and a helmet to accompany my leather armor and boots, and with a large shield equipped, I'm still light enough to dodge-roll. I'm going to make sure I'm always light enough to be able to do that, as I've always preferred dodgier characters, but I'd like a nice balance of defense to go along with it. If all goes well, I'll be able to dodge with full platemail. That would be awesome biggrin.gif

I also spent half an hour or so shooting a giant dragon out of the sky. It was well worth it; 17,000 souls and an irritation gone forever from two sections of the first world. Also let me get at some cool treasure, including a flame-resistant shield that will be very handy and a ring that increases how much weight I can equip (meaning I can equip more and still dodge effectively)

My plan at this point is to focus on endurance and dexterity primarily, with vitality and strength taking a decent portion of the points as well. The Wanderer starts off with pretty decent luck, so I'm getting lots of healing items. I may increase that a bit as well as I go, but probably not too high.

Oh, I also got some help from someone at Atlus for a while; they took me through the Tower Knight boss fight and got me a body back (which I promptly lost by dying again, but that's the way this game seems to go.) First time I was able to see actual multiplayer in action, so it was definitely a treat. Thanks again to whoever that was over at Atlus that helped me.

The game is definitely hard as hell, though. I've died plenty already, and I'm sure I'll die a lot more. If anyone who's played the Asian version has suggestions on building my character, I'd love to hear them. I'll try to keep this blog updated as I make more progress in the game.

09/17/2009

Progress continues. Today I finished off world 2-1 as well as getting through most of 3-1 and 4-1.

3-1 was an exciting adventure, as the entire journey was done with the assistance of Aram Jabbari at Atlus (thanks Aram!) Of course, it didn't start out as assistance, because the son of a gun decided to invade my game as a black phantom first!

For those who don't know, there are two forms of multiplayer in Demon's Souls - co-op and pvp. In the co-op mode, players in soul form can leave a soul sign for players with a body to touch. When they do, those souls infiltrate the bodied player's world. If they successfully defeat the boss for that area, the soul player gets to return to his world with a new body.

The pvp aspect is a bit more vicious. Players can choose to seek out living players and invade their world as a Black Phantom. The black phantom has the upper hand, as it won't be attacked by enemies in the area. If the black phantom successfully kills the player, he gains a new body, but the dead player of course loses his.

In any case, me an Aram had an epic showdown in 3-1, but in the end I was victorious! Bragging rights belong to me!

After that little escapade, Aram joined me as a soul, and we set out through the harrowing world of 3-1. And harrowing it is indeed. There are more than a few enemies here that creep me right the hell out. Most of all are the vicious jailkeepers. They wander the hallways, casting a pale green light and ringing this creepy bell. If they see you, they fire a powerful magical attack at you, and if you get too close, you better be prepared to kill them quickly, because they'll paralyze you and kill you while you're standing there helpless.

Unfortunately, we weren't able to get all the way through 3-1. That place is a bloody maze, and Aram even admitted to me that he'd never managed to conquer it himself. Yikes!

After we ultimately decided to call it quits in favor of having our respective lunches, I returned to the game later to try taking on 4-1. It went pretty well; I'm almost all the way through, but the end is causing me a bit of trouble. A gold skeleton with a massive broadsword blocks my way, and a vicious flying stingray keeps shooting me from the sky while I'm trying to fight it on a narrow ledge with a bottomless cliff on my left. I'm tempted to just grab a few hundred arrows and shoot those damn things out of the sky. They're annoying.

I've started to plan my character out a bit more. I'm going to focus mostly on dexterity, endurance, luck, and vitality. I have my strength at 22 for equipping purposes, but I don't think I'll raise it any higher than that for now. I'm forgoing magic altogether, but I did raise my faith to 10 in order to have access to a single miracle: Evacuation. The ability to return to the nexus with my souls in tact at any time sounds like a good thing to me. Of course, the spell also cost me 20,000 souls. Hopefully it'll pay for itself in time.

09/18/2009

I decided to do something different today. After hearing about how useful magic can be, I created a new character starting as a royal to test it out. And I see what everyone was talking about. It actually seemed a bit too powerful. At least in the first couple of stages. I didn't even have to get behind the Phalanxes to kill them; I just blasted them from the front and they went down with ease.

I got through 1-1 and 1-2 with that character fairly easily, and after considering it for a while, I decided I was having more fun with my melee character. I'm capable from a distance using a bow if I need to shoot something anyways. So I'll be going back to him from now on. However, I have decided to increase my magic/intelligence to 10 so that I can learn a spell. I think Enchant Weapon would be fairly useful every now and then, if I need a little magic damage for whatever reason.

09/19/2009

I didn't have all that much time to play today; progressively earlier shifts at work meant I basically went to bed after getting home, got up, went back to work, came home, and now I'm going to bed again so I can get up for my next shift. After tomorrow, though, I've got two full days of Demon's Souls waiting for me biggrin.gif

In any case, I played for maybe two hours total today. I bought Magic Weapon (and discovered it really wasn't that useful), farmed up a bit of half moon grass because I was running low, and then this evening went and finished off 4-1. The boss was VERY easy... once I figured out where to stand to avoid getting slaughtered. That seems to be the case with most of the bosses in this game. I just shot him in the head repeatedly until he went down. A bow is a perfect replacement for magic. The gold skeletons proved to be easy even with physical attacks, by the way. They were just too slow for my sword.

In my acquisition of magic, I did discover one interesting thing... the Wanderer class starts off knowing three magical spells: Soul Arrow, Flame Toss, and Water Veil. All three are available to be memorized when you have high enough magic. Likewise, he also inherently knew the Heal miracle. Unfortunately, he doesn't start off with a talisman or a catalyst, so he can't DO anything with them immediately...

Anyways, now I must decide whether to continue and try to finish 3-1, or start on 5-1. Either way, I'm in for some excitement tomorrow.

09/21/2009

Today has been very productive so far. I've completed 3-1 and 5-1, which puts the first dungeon of each world out of the way.

5-1 was a very annoying place. The entire world is made up of ramshackle, rotting boards strewn together in the most psychotic ways, with plague-infested locals all over the place. There are so many places to fall to your death, it can be a very annoying area to get through.

Luckily, the boss is a piece of cake. His attacks are pitifully slow and weak, and the only thing that makes him even remotely frustrating is his ability to heal. Ranged attacks just aren't quick enough, so I had to go into melee to take him down.

From here, I'll be pressing forward into 1-3 and 2-2. Wish me luck biggrin.gif

09/22/2009

My character is getting pretty damn strong biggrin.gif I'm somewhere around soul level 55ish and my equipment is nicely upgraded. I've got a Dark Purple Flame Shield +2, a Viscous Compound Longbow +3, a Kilij +8 (which I'm getting ready to upgrade to a Large Sword of Searching once I get my strength up a little bit more), and a Sharp Winged Spear +3. Upgrading further is getting to be a bit difficult.

I finished 2-2 yesterday evening, and this afternoon I completed 4-2, which was an incredible area. Took me a while, but I ultimately managed to get through. I had to reorganize a fair bit of my equipment, but in the end the boss fell.

And what a boss. The Blind Old Hero, who's literally blind. He wanders around trying to find you, swinging his huge sword around randomly. You just keep out of the way and slowly shoot him in the back over and over biggrin.gif

It seems that DQ5 was right about 1-3. It looks like I have to finish all the other second-level areas first. I guess 3-2 and 5-2 are up next.

09/23/2009

Today I vanquished 3-2, and I have to say, it is easily the creepiest, most atmospheric level I've seen in the game so far - unquestionably my favorite at this point. The level is made up of stone catwalks suspended between several towers. There are bodies everywhere, and an insane amount of blood all over the ground.

At the center of this area is a huge tower with a pulsating monstrosity in the middle. It's got several tentacles that stretch out and block certain paths, and they're most populous at the base of the tower, where a creepy wooden dock hangs over an eerie purple lake.

As you explore, flying gargoyles regularly attack you; they're not too hard to fight, but they can easily surprise you if you don't see them.

The boss of this area was particularly difficult, mainly because a second one shows up halfway through the fight. However, he's also got much less health than most bosses, so you can take one of them down fairly quickly, which ended up being the key to my success.

At this point in time, I'm actually eager to get my retail copy so I can start over from scratch with a new character. I've taken what I've learned from the game so far and designed a character I think will work extremely well. I'm fairly certain I won't be able to beat the game before the servers go down in four days, but regardless, you can expect a review then; we won't keep you waiting, and I've pretty much made up my mind on this game.

This will be my last entry. Keep watch next week for a Demon's Souls review.



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Comments

  • Anna Marie PrivitereAnna Marie Privitere Purr RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    I'm amused that was Aram.
  • UnfortunatesUnfortunates Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    As far as a Wanderer goes I'm not sure how you should really build your character since I used the Royal which was a melee/magic user.

    Main advice I can give is that some bosses can be really easy if you know where to stand/where not stand and so on and usually if you don't know that "sweet spot" you will die. The notes left by others can really help that, but I am not sure if Atlus is leaving notes for you since the game hasn't been released on the US servers yet.

    Anyway have fun with this amazing game I imported the asian version a few months back and it is one of the best RPGS this generation.
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  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited September 2009
    I'm amused that was Aram.
    That one might not have been Aram. He tried to help me through the boss fight, but died with me shortly after. However, I beat the Tower Knight without his help later on. wink.gif



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  • DQ5DQ5 Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    I can't give you much advice on building a Wanderer as i to went with a Royal, but i would advive learning some miracles especially the healing miracle. Of course before you can use miracle you need a talisman and depending on the miracle your faith will need to be at a certain lv.

    Protective magic is very useful as well. Water Veil is one that could really help when you go up against the Flamelurker or future dragons.
  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    My luck is pretty high so I drop items like nobody's business. Healing isn't an issue. I have close to 40 Crescent Moon Grass and similarly high numbers of all the others. So I'm not too worried about having a healing miracle.
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  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    updated
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  • UnfortunatesUnfortunates Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    For the golden skeletons magic works really well against them. If you don't have any powerful offensive magic get the spell magic weapon makes it ten times easier to take out those guys.

    And yes I agree 3-1 is fun but very creepy as well but luckily the boss for 3-1 isn't all that difficult.
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  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited September 2009
    Ok, I guess I'm just stupid or something, but I bought the Magic Weapon spell and have no idea how to use it on my scimitar.

    Suggestions?
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  • SiliconNooBSiliconNooB Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    @Omega or Mac- Is this the kind of game where you should focus on building your character to do one or two things really well (i.e. melee)? Or is it important to teach them a bit of everything (i.e. a bit of melee, ranged and magic)? I only ask because it sounds like there are specific ways that you're supposed to take out certain enemies. I usually prefer to focus on exlusively melee characters, but don't want to back myself into a corner.



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  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited September 2009
    @Omega or Mac- Is this the kind of game where you should focus on building your character to do one or two things really well (i.e. melee)? Or is it important to teach them a bit of everything (i.e. a bit of melee, ranged and magic)? I only ask because it sounds like there are specific ways that you're supposed to take out certain enemies. I usually prefer to focus on exlusively melee characters, but don't want to back myself into a corner.
    From what I've seen, there are ranged and melee ways to take out bosses, so you won't be screwed one way or another. I would recommend just starting the game with a the royalty and playing around in the tutorial level to see how you like to play. If you want a mix of magic and melee, stick with that class. If you really like the melee combat, go back and make a knight or barbarian.

    I like having a mix of both and the royal class is good for starts, as it's flexible.
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  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    It's the flying guys in the sky that's making this fight hard. I'm wondering if I should lure Mr. Skeleton back somewhere safer where I'm not going to be bombarded with missiles every 5 seconds.
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  • UnfortunatesUnfortunates Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    It's the flying guys in the sky that's making this fight hard. I'm wondering if I should lure Mr. Skeleton back somewhere safer where I'm not going to be bombarded with missiles every 5 seconds.
    That works well also. Are you at the first encounter with them? If so the hallway before them is "semi" safe from the flying demons, but will require some dodging of their attacks.

    Just keep in mind that isn't the only time you will encounter them (talking about the flying creatures).
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  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    updated
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  • DQ5DQ5 Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    Magic is very helpful in fact i doubt i could've defeat the 3-2 boss the Maneater without it as that is a 1vs 2 boss fight on a long narrow bridge that could send you falling to your death if your not carefull.
  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    updated
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  • UnfortunatesUnfortunates Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    Yeah like I mentioned earlier I played as a Royal so my melee attacks sucked on the golden guys but my magic would take them out no problem that is why I mentioned that. And I agree the 4-1 boss was very easy, as well as some of the other bosses if you just know where to stand/not to stand.
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  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    I'm finding it more and more depressing that I'm going to have to start from scratch when the retail release comes around. Oh well, frankly it'll be totally worth it biggrin.gif
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  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    updated
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  • DQ5DQ5 Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    5-1 was a pain, i fell to my death quite a few times and 5-2 can be rather annoying as well as its easy to get lost in the undergound swamp.

    As for 1-3 you can not access that area until you have killed all the demons in the other 4 areas unless something has been changed.
  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    5-1 was a pain, i fell to my death quite a few times and 5-2 can be rather annoying as well as its easy to get lost in the undergound swamp.

    As for 1-3 you can not access that area until you have killed all the demons in the other 4 areas unless something has been changed.
    Yeah, I found that out, but I think you only need to have killed ONE second-tier demon.

    Which I've done - Flamelurker in 2-2 is down. That was also an easy fight, just time-consuming. It was almost like fighting a normal enemy. He didn't hit THAT hard, it just took forever to whittle his health down.



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  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    updated
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  • DQ5DQ5 Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    If you have the theif ring it can make the 4-2 boss even easier and its best to have equipment that makes little noise equipped. The 4-3 boss is fun as you can get a special sword in the area with a pretty cool attack, however that attack only works in 4-3.
  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited September 2009
    Man, for a game I had completely written off before I saw it, I'm really, really loving this game. I hope it does well for Atlus and they bring over 3D Dot Heroes (and drop the word Game out of it).
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  • DQ5DQ5 Member Full Members
    edited September 2009
    Demon's Souls reminds me alot of Valkyria Chronicles its a game you have to play to truly understand how great it is.
  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    Man, for a game I had completely written off before I saw it, I'm really, really loving this game. I hope it does well for Atlus and they bring over 3D Dot Heroes (and drop the word Game out of it).
    Well I honestly thought Atlus would rename Demon's Souls to "Demon Souls" or "Demon's Soul" so that it was grammatically correct, but they didn't.
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  • Adriaan den OudenAdriaan den Ouden Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground RPGamer Staff
    edited September 2009
    final update
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  • flamethrowerflamethrower Member Full Members
    edited October 2009
    Please check out Omega's review. Further comments on the game or Omega's playthrough should go to the discussion thread.
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