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I'm bored and sad. I also don't have any RPGs and none i am looking forward to until Digital Devil Saga 2 gets released in September or so. I need a new game to cheer me up!
Not sure what there is out there though that I haven't already played or considered. I have played and enjoyed all the FFs, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga, Summoner 2. I have played and enjoyed less Shadow Hearts 2, the first Shadow Hearts, Xenosaga, Xenosaga 2. I enjoyed Disgaea but by the time I finished Phantom Brave, I have gotten bored with the tactical RPGs, so I am not interested in Makai Kingdom or La Purcelle. I also picked up ICO recently, but got frustrated by my buggy copy.
I am not sure about Atelier Iris either. I have seen poor reviews in EGM and the real-time battless can be rather badly done in some games.
So, any suggestions?
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Also, if you haven't played it yet, run, do not walk, and pick up a copy of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Whether you are a big Star Wars fan or no, this is an incredibly rich and deep game. The battles can be tough at first, but if you use the pause function, you can make it into a very elaborate turn-based sytem. The story is great, plus you can be your good self or take a walk on the Dark side, if that strikes your fancy. I know it's not PS2, but it's out for PC, Mac and Xbox, so if you have the hardware, it's a game I couldn't recommend strongly enough.
And try not to be sad. Life's too short.
Now that's got to be the understatment of the year, considering a couple of your favourite named games were SMT:Nocturne and SMT: DDS, lol.
Like you I'm hanging out for DDS2 too, but I've played - and liked - most the games you have. ?I've also tried Dark Cloud 2 and hated it. The plot's sparse and the graphics aren't much better. ?I'm very suprised you didn't like Shadow Hearts: Covenant tho, I loved the suble humour and the double-endings that leave you wondering are great. ?
Have you tried Summoner 1? ?It's graphics are little dated now - but not as bad as some of the newer games coming out - but the story is a gripper. For a loong time Summoner had the distinction of being the only game I'd played more than once. ?
Have you tried the dotHack series? ?Another great plot, a few good twists, loads to do and good character development. What about the Legacy of Kain series? ?I know they're not rpgs, but they're excellent - then again, I like the time-travel theme. ?The Bard's Tale is good for a light-hearted hack n' slash and it's garunteed to give you chuckle or three. ?ICO's great too, but loads of puzzles which I found a little difficult. ?The entire story comes from your visual perceptions, so you have to pay attention to everything! ?
Have you tried Vagrant Story on PS1? ?Yes, it's an older game but the graphics and story still stand strong today. ?VS's one of MY all-time favourites. ?
Well, that's my 2cents worth. ?
Yeah, as above, Suikoden III, well any of the Suikodens really - except 4 - are excellent rpgs with good plots.
2. Give SH2 another chance. Please?
3. Brutally murder whomever sold you the bugged copy of ICO.
Oh God I'm blogging anime now?!?!?!?!/
Also, I hope you feel happier soon!
Oh and yeah, what Solon said! Growlanser Generations is awesome, too.
Fanboys, really.
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Roku seems to think it's looking pretty good . You might want to give it a shot. I'm thinking about picking it up, myself. Though you are correct, the mainstream media is not being overly kind to this particular title.
KOTOR - Sorry, I`m not getting an X-Box or upgrading my PC for one game
Dark Cloud 2 - I did not like the first Dark Cloud. The story seemed lacking, and the random dungeons were rather tedious (especially the whole running out of water thing). Is the second any better?
BoF 5 - I have heard good things about this game, but I am a bit skepitcal of the idea of having to die and start over again and again with your new items and stats.... My local rental places never carry RPGs, so I am not sure about buying this at all.
Growlanser - I have not heard of this one... which one should I look into? I like story-driven RPGs most.
Star Ocean 3 - have it
Summoner 1 - um... it was rather bad and went back to the shop in less than a day
Vagrant Story - I did try it but it didn`t work out for me.
Played KH and enjoyed it
Suikoden - tried 2 & 3 but was never able to get into it. 100 characters seems a bit much to me too
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KOTOR - Sorry, I`m not getting an X-Box or upgrading my PC for one game ?
Dark Cloud 2 - I did not like the first Dark Cloud. The story seemed lacking, and the random dungeons were rather tedious (especially the whole running out of water thing). Is the second any better?[/QUOTE]
You don't have to apologize about missing KOTOR (after all, we're trying to help you here)--but you do have my sympathies. If it had never been released for the Mac, and I had not just recently upgraded my machine, I would have missed it, too. It is a terrific game--keep it in mind if you ever upgrade your machine. You really won't be sorry.
I didn't play Dark Cloud 1, but from what I've heard, 2 is a definite improvement. For instance, if you break a weapon, it isn't just lost forever. And you don't "run out of water," whatever peculiar bit of gameplay that entailed. It's probably hit or miss, but there's a good chance you would like it if you liked Kingdom Hearts, I should think. And Ys: the Ark of Napishtim (as Solon suggested) is probably in somewhat the same vein, just of a ?simplified variety. I enjoyed that game quite a bit, as well. (It's quite a bit shorter, if that means anything to you.)
And yes, at this point I suppose that Atelier Iris is a bit of a crap shoot. Personally, I'm replaying Dark Cloud 2 at the moment. 72 hours in, and I'm still hooked. The dungeons could be a bit repetitive, but you're trying to do so many different things that it really doesn't seem monotonous. To me, at least.
Edit: Here's what your friends from EGM had to say about Dark Cloud 2:
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Going out on yet another limb, though it's not an RPG, have you ever looked at Ratchet and Clank? I'm not a hefty-reflexes kind of player by a long shot, but that was one helluva fun game. Even challenging, in parts. I cursed and threw my controller at times, but it was a worthwhile trip when all was said and done. And it's funny--just what the doctor ordered for a case of the blahs! (Just a thought.)
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Golden Draak, if you're not into cutesy style of characters or themes in a game stay away from Dark Cloud 2. I rented the game way back when, played it for a couple of hours and never it picked back up. Way too childish for me. From what I remember the gameplay is "Zelda-like", action RPG, but with an extensive weapon upgrade system.
From the RPGs mentioned above, can't really recommend a PS2 RPG that you would enjoy. I would probably wait until DDS2 comes out. Until that time, you could always get a classic PS1 RPG. Persona 1 or 2 are pretty good games, and you should play them if you're into Nocturne/DDS type of games. Dragon Warrior 7?
Or if you get a chance, there's a plethora of RPG's for the Game Boy Advance. Tactics Advance, and of the Castlevania's are classics.
Persona - pretty much out of print, I can`t see if for sale anywhere and I am not paying $100+ on Ebay for a used game
Dragon Warrior - I didn`t like the series when I gave it a try. *runs and hides from the Dragon Warrior fans*
I`ll look into Growlanser and Ys a bit more.
Anyone played Stella Deus? I was looking at it the other day, but couldn`t decide if it was good or not. Also, any advice on BoF5?
I loved it myself =P
Dracos
Actually, since it doesn't seem to be brought up, how about Arc the Lad Twilight of Spirits? I actually enjoyed that a little more than BoFV (which has a similar battle system but a less... traditional storyline and gameplay system), even if I didn't finish it. Another dirt cheap game you can check out.
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Really? Why? The game is sublime. @_@
Dracos, if you have a problem with this, feel free to unpin or whatever ^^
Five tons of Flax,
Davis
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Struck me as funny, too. Still, I'd pay it. ^^
Five tons of Flax,
Davis
Its a rare game now, I suppose, since nobody seems to carry new copies anymore.
Five tons of Flax,
Davis
I have a copy of Persona2 coming my way eventually. (My Canadian bank account cries).
I have also gotten hooked on my Star Ocean 3 game, which I never did finish (long story, got a new copy).
Hopefully others might get some good ideas for less-known RPGs from this thread
Tales of Destiny II (True sequel to Tales of Destiny following the story of Stahn's boy, Kyle)
Both are Japanese only unfortunately without a release date set, which brings up another topic, Namco needs to start releasing some freakin games over here....
It's hard not to go up from the worst game in the series.
Dracos
Who stabs farmboy Stahn for the poser he is.
I may have to agree on a specific standpoint on TOD though concerning the gameplay but regarding character/character development, level design, music, its all fine to me.
and besides, Stahn/Rutee kicked ass in Namco X Capcom
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Doesn't matter how TOD was, this doesn't automatically make TOD2 any worse just because it's a direct sequel.