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DS Vs. PSP
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The 1.8 gig limatations of the optical disc means that the UMD can not compete with the 4.7+ gigs on a DVD. The unit's output is said to be stereo and there has been no mention so far of 5.1 support. But again.. it's a portable player.
Sony also claims that the UMD is a "ROM Only" format. While that may be true the Sony Memory Stick is gaining size. It's possible that it could catch up to Flash Cards. Or the USB 2.0 connection could link up to a Flash card. At any rate the system has many possibilities.
And we all will have to move on to the successor to DVD if we want to have High Def quality video. Sony hopes to win that standard as well with their Blue Ray format. In fact I expect the PS3 to support Blue Ray as a means to gaining the upper hand in the HDTV Video format wars.
The thing that scares me time and time again is Sony's deep belief in it's "ten year plan". A company that big, with that much money and a plan for global domination is hard to ignore.
DS +
Touch Screen*
2 Screens
Wireless 100ft radius Multiplayer*
Wireless/Free Wi-Fi(internet)*
Decent enough graphics*
Sound recognition
Clam-Shel design*
Wireless game sharing
Inexpensive*
100+ Developers already have dev Kits~
Backlit
Backwards compatible*
DS -
Clunky squarish shape
Graphics arent the sharpist
SD Cards only hold about 1Gb(compared to the UMD's 1.5GB)
PSP +
Graphics
Slick and Sexy Design
Analouge stick
Wi-Fi(wireless internet)
1.5GB storage space on UMD
Will be able to play movies and Music
PSP -
Expensive
No cover for screen
Low battery life(2h-Movies, 10h Music, somwhere inbitween for games)
The Movie function is completly useless for me, as im not going
to buy all my favorite movies twice, just so i can watch them on
a inferior screen that has to be plugged into a wall every 2
hours.
The Graphics although good, arent really that big of a thing for
me as i am a strong beleiver that Gameplay is far better then
Graphics. So i will have to wait and see what PSP developers
deliver in this Department.
I can see why Sony went to a disk format, as it allows for much
for information storage. But the drawback is a major one, as the
PSP's battery life will be drained 60+% because of it.
All in all its the battery life and Cost that make the PSP the
infereor system for me. If the recharger for the PSP is similar to
the GBASP, then you will play for 3hours, charge for 3.5 hours
and it just wont seem like a handheld. If i wanted something with
PS2 graphics, and could play movies i would simply get the PS2
as it is cheaper, and no doubt be plugged into the wall just as
much.
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Davis
DS - Where are the games, Nintendo? Where are the games?
PSP - Wow, lots of ports of awesome games. Where are the new ones? Death Jr.? Come on, you guys can do better than that.
DS - Where are the games, Nintendo? Where are the games?
PSP - Wow, lots of ports of awesome games. Where are the new ones? Death Jr.? Come on, you guys can do better than that.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
no new games?
What about the new metal gear and Makai wars?
....Im sure there are some more new ones...ok maybe you have a point.
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Don't get me wrong, the PSP looks sexy (as opposed to the DS which looks horrid), but I don't want another gadget cluttering my room, unused. That'll just be another $300 down the toilet.
Don't get me wrong, the PSP looks sexy (as opposed to the DS which looks horrid), but I don't want another gadget cluttering my room, unused. That'll just be another $300 down the toilet.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Ohh thanks for the reminder. I forgot to mention that the DS will undergo a facelift before its release. If you noticed the model on the E3 show floor didnt even have a place to hold the stylus, it was just a prototype. Im guessing after nintendo saw the PSP they're going to make sure that the DS is as sexy as can be when its released. Good news for all!
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My real issue is that the big N is going on a big push to sell that classic NES SP when they plan on dropping the DS in six, or so it is said by Nintendo, months. How many times can you re-package something before you burn out the core fan base? Probably more than the number of licks than it would take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop but I digress. :]
Straight from Nintendo:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td class="QUOTE"How long does the rechargeable battery last before it needs to be charged again?
With the Front Light Screen operational, battery life is approximately 10 hours, and 18 hours with the light turned off. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
While I realize the word approximate is there, I think your seven to eight hour figure is a little too lowball.
True, most gamers won't need to play it for more than eight hours straight. But, the troubling battery life numbers mean PSP owners will be charging their units more frequently than SP owners did. That also means their PSP batteries will degrade faster, which means they'll need to buy replacement batteries sooner / more frequently and knowing the big S, those won't be cheap.
Sony can do better.
Five tons of Neo Geo Pocket Colors,
Davis
Actually being played by people at E3. You know, unlike the PSP, which pretty much just had video demos of games (insert Final Fantasy joke here).
I use a flash card with my SP hardware 90% of the time I use it, and the ram in it sucks juice from the SP's battery.
First of all, the tests left the system on and sitting there. Now the actual game processing admittedly does not take much more energy, so that is minimal.
What does count, however, is turning the system on and off. Booting up the system actually takes a small power jolt which can drain the battery more quickly than if it was left on. Turning the light on and off can also put a bit of drain on the battery.
Finally, as anyone call tell you who has a Lithium battery in their cell phone, if you do not let the battery fully discharge and/or you do not let it fully discharge, it has an effect on battery life as well. Very likely, in a few years, there will be several of us who will indeed need new SP batteries.
I've had a Palm Pilot in the past, but it never really took advantage of the touch screen for a new way to play games. It more or less pretended to be a mouse. The Nintendo DS is going to do some very clever stuff. Also, I love the two screens. I love the Wi-fi.
There is a Yu-gi-oh DS video out on the web. I don't know if RPGamer has it. I really don't intend to get the game, but the video is gorgeous. I am very impressed already with the graphical capabilities that some of the third parties have already gotten out of this system. This video looks even better than the Metroid/Mario 64 demos.
As for the PSP.. between Makai Wars, Tales of Eternia, and a wireless multiplayer Twisted Metal (it better have wireless multiplayer support for that game) then I'm definitely in.
Though the surprise may not be a positive one.
The PSP is a lot prettier (edit: in physical design) than the DS. I am a little adverse to the extras it has attached to it. I am also weary of its battery life. Watching a 2 hour movie on a road trip and having it cut off on me in the middle of a sex scene does not a happy camper make. Im not too impressed with the games either. If GT4 actually looks like it does on the screen shots I would definately buy it.
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If it is two hours for video than it stands to reason that gaming will be just as short. ?Gaming does have a video element to it after all. ?If it is doing ten for just video, then it might do less with gaming.
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Also..
None of us are going to get either of these systems if we don't pre order. G4 is reporting that the high demand for cell phones will make obtaining LCDs for Sony and Nintendo dificult at best. There's a rumor going around that EB and Gamestop have a low limit for pre orders as the initial shippment will be low. And that means the initial price will be high.
Nintendo may even have to dip into it's cash reserves to have enough to support R and D on the DS and it's next gen console. They just announced a loss for the year but the big N has plenty of money lying around for just this kind of thing.
Also..
None of us are going to get either of these systems if we don't pre order. G4 is reporting that the high demand for cell phones will make obtaining LCDs for Sony and Nintendo dificult at best. There's a rumor going around that EB and Gamestop have a low limit for pre orders as the initial shippment will be low. And that means the initial price will be high.
Nintendo may even have to dip into it's cash reserves to have enough to support R and D on the DS and it's next gen console. They just announced a loss for the year but the big N has plenty of money lying around for just this kind of thing.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Low volume != high price.
Gamecube were like gold this xmas, as Nintendo really dropped the ball and by mid-December, many retailers in Canada (including a ton of EBs and Wal Marts) were completely sold out.
But more applicable:
Demand !> Supply.
There was a huge demand for GBAs and SPs at launch (moreso for the PS2, which if I recall correctly had problems getting certain electonic parts out of Asia and into Canada, but handhelds are more applicable), and there was always a rumour "because of the light the SP used it was going to be so low, etc etc.
From my experience at EB, I can tell you "Initial shipments are ALWAYS limited". Smaller stores get smaller shipments, bigger stores get bigger shipments, and allocation grows a brain and continually supplies us as the demand requires. That way, you don't send 50 units to both store AB and CD and get AB completely sold out while CD is sitting on 30.
Will there be a cap for preorders? Well, duh! They've done so for every single other system. We had waiting lists at both our EB and the local Microplay for a very, very long time for PS2s when they were first released. Sony could only get over / continually produce so much at a time.
Is the recommendation to preorder a good one? Hells yes. I've preordered my DS; I've encouraged others to do so. I'm choosing not to pick up a PSP at launch, but I've taken preorders for that too.
Finally...No company, including Nintendo, has money 'just lying around to be blown'. Part of releasing a new system *is* the startup costs - and Nintendo's been in the console and handheld market long enough to get a clue, especially during times when nobody was even interested in a home video game system.
Think I'm done now
Dracos