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Grand Knights History Is History

MacstormMacstorm Ysy St.Administrators
edited May 2012 in Latest Updates
Development issues have halted XSEED's localization of Grand Knights History. Unfortunately, gamers will not be able to get around to playing this one in English.

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  • Zaku77Zaku77 Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    This sucks. Apparently Rising Star is still bringing it out in Europe, though. If anyone wants it, it could easily be imported. (That's what I'll be doing! :3)
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  • Alex FullerAlex Fuller Managing Editor RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2012
    I think it's more likely to be that Rising Star hasn't confirmed a cancellation on their end, nothing's been said from them either way since this news broke (it also doesn't appear on their list of games) so I wouldn't hold out much hope on that.
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  • RebochanRebochan Who needs Rinoa anyway? Full Members
    edited May 2012
    I had a sad hunch this was coming. Vanillaware's not in great shape. Ignition was supposed to be fronting development costs for Dragon's Crown, but I suspect they didn't hold through on their end considering that Atlus had to rescue it. It's not surprising that other titles got caught in the crossfire.
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  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited May 2012
    Zaku77 wrote: »
    This sucks. Apparently Rising Star is still bringing it out in Europe, though. If anyone wants it, it could easily be imported. (That's what I'll be doing! :3)

    Yeah, not happening. The developer is apparently the issue here, so Rising Star's in the same boat as XSEED.
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  • kazrikokazriko Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    How disappointing... That just leaves Gungnir and Growlanser as PSP games I'm looking forward to.

    Unless we're going to get something else that I haven't heard about yet.
  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited May 2012
    There's always hope that Atlus USA will bring over Persona 2 EP. They are doing Gungnir and Growlanser, so why not do the PSP game that more people actually want.
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  • WheelsWheels RPGamer Staff RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2012
    There's also Unchained Blades (though that's digital only)
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  • NimNim _ Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Such a shame, but I'll forgive them if we get Dragon's Crown.
  • scorpio_7scorpio_7 Tactics Ogre, I choose u! Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Ugh, very disappointing. I was really looking forward to this one.
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  • FrozenbabylonFrozenbabylon POW! Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Macstorm wrote: »
    Yeah, not happening. The developer is apparently the issue here, so Rising Star's in the same boat as XSEED.
    Also, Rising Star was supposed to be using XSeeds translation. So. There's also that.
  • ZbornakZbornak Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    That's a shame. I would much rather have had Grand Knights History than Dragon's Crown :(
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  • flamethrowerflamethrower Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    I would have bought it, but honestly neither game looks that exciting to me. Vanillaware focuses on graphics. Their gameplay is not great.
  • OyashiroOyashiro NEEDS MOAR UNDERBOOB! Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Atlus! We need your help again!
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  • Zaku77Zaku77 Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    You have all broke my hopes and dreams lol. I supposed this just isn't happening then.

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  • MacstormMacstorm Ysy St. Administrators
    edited May 2012
    Oyashiro wrote: »
    Atlus! We need your help again!

    Too bad Atlus can't help here.
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  • OyashiroOyashiro NEEDS MOAR UNDERBOOB! Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Macstorm wrote: »
    Too bad Atlus can't help here.

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  • TheAnimeManTheAnimeMan Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Basically Vanillaware can only really work on one game, mostly cause Ignition ****ED them over royally on the other game they have to divert resourses.
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  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited May 2012
    TheAnimeMan wrote: »
    Basically Vanillaware can only really work on one game, mostly cause Ignition ****ED them over royally on the other game they have to divert resourses.

    Basically.

    Yeah, Ignition may have peed in XSEED's cereal a few times, but it's nothing compared to what they've done to Vanillaware it seems. At least Ignition's apparent dissolution means they're not likely to screw over anyone else, so there's blessing in that.
    Macstorm wrote:
    Too bad Atlus can't help here.

    Pretty much. They JUST rescued Dragon Crown, and have plenty of other projects on their plate (P4 Arena, P4 Golden, Gungnir, Growlanser, possibly P2: EP), so I imagine it's a case of there only being so much money to go around.
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  • Rya_ReisenderRya_Reisender Solipsist Snowflake Full Members
    edited May 2012
    I don't understand how a genius company like VanillaWare can have to much troubles. X_X

    Also I disagree that they are only good at graphics. While they are particularly amazing at graphics, they also are very good in gameplay ideas. All their games had very unique gameplay that you've never seen before in that form and still was easily accessible.
  • Anna Marie PrivitereAnna Marie Privitere Purr RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2012
    Even the smartest companies can make mistakes. Think of it this way:
    You sit next to the same kid every day for lunch. The first few days you're wary of him. Then you get to know each other. A few months later, he suddenly kicks your *** and takes your lunch money. You're not suddenly stupid because you took a whoopin. You just trusted the wrong person.
  • TheAnimeManTheAnimeMan Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Paws wrote: »
    Even the smartest companies can make mistakes. Think of it this way:
    You sit next to the same kid every day for lunch. The first few days you're wary of him. Then you get to know each other. A few months later, he suddenly kicks your *** and takes your lunch money. You're not suddenly stupid because you took a whoopin. You just trusted the wrong person.

    Odd analogy there Paws.
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  • MasterChiefMasterChief I didn't learn anything! Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Paws wrote: »
    Even the smartest companies can make mistakes. Think of it this way:
    You sit next to the same kid every day for lunch. The first few days you're wary of him. Then you get to know each other. A few months later, he suddenly kicks your *** and takes your lunch money. You're not suddenly stupid because you took a whoopin. You just trusted the wrong person.

    Yep, I would definitely say Ignition was the wrong person. :laugh:
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  • HeideggerHeidegger New Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    This is awful! I was much more excited for this game than I am for Dragon's Crown. Regardless, I hope Vanillaware are able to weather their troubles alright.
  • CVBCVB New Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    This is sad, but there's no excuse for it nowadays. I guess Vanillaware hasn't heard of Kickstarter. All they have to do is throw in a few incentives and fans will easily fund a localization and then some.
  • Alex FullerAlex Fuller Managing Editor RPGamer Staff
    edited May 2012
    There are other resources apart from money that has to be taken into account for these things, unfortunately it seems Vanillaware doesn't have the staff at the moment to be working on both games. And simply using the money to hire new people so they can do it is generally a very poor investment (for a start, you have to devote further time/costs bringing them up to speed on everything before you can even begin).
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  • CVBCVB New Member Full Members
    edited May 2012
    Severin Mira wrote: »
    There are other resources apart from money that has to be taken into account for these things, unfortunately it seems Vanillaware doesn't have the staff at the moment to be working on both games. And simply using the money to hire new people so they can do it is generally a very poor investment (for a start, you have to devote further time/costs bringing them up to speed on everything before you can even begin).


    I understand your point, but I feel like this is about money as well. Otherwise, why wouldn't they just delay it a couple of months until staff resources were available and then release it, rather than outright axing the project?
  • OcelotOcelot is not declawed Full Members
    edited May 2012
    We will probably never know all the details behind why the project was cancelled. Even if Vanillaware were able to do its work after a few months, would XSEED have the financial and staff resources to finish the project at that point? XSEED is a very small company and may have already dedicated its resources to other projects after GKH was scheduled to release. When you're a small localizer, you don't always have a lot of wiggle room to handle something like a project that can't be completed on schedule due to problems beyond your control.
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